Lenny - since when has honesty and straight talking been mudslinging? To tell you the truth I feel that I’ve stumbled into an unreal world, full of loonies and transient entities, psychos, approval seekers and anonymity addicts. There are people here who are seasoned forum botherers, grudge holders and trolls.
Where’s the common purpose? For sure there are many talented (and I know you are one of them) people but the forum loses its purpose if everyone shuts down to “Foes”. Let’s all be mates again. Let’s all go off to the Bare and Ragged Arse (Farnham) together and get p*ssed!
Got sober back in '02 - but yeah, I’d prefer to be your friend. You’ll discover that I’m friendly with the overwhelming
majority of the folks I come into contact with here. It’s been that way for years.
there are a couple that I speak out against when I feel it needs to be done - and believe me when I tell you,
I don’t enjoy it and I’d like it to stop, but sometimes someone needs to make a stand.
I absolutely agree. Sometimes though, people have a knack of p*ssing others off because of their cultural/linguistic differences. I have a South African friend who is intelligent, warm natured and intuitive but he can provoke me, very quickly into FURY! (Hi Sybrand!). It’s just the way he uses the English language. We’ve learned to deal with it through personal, face-to-face “immediacy”. You can’t do that on a forum, unfortunately.
I think cavewoman had equal rights. The sexism came from the Abrahamic dogma didn’t it? Even Ancient Egypt had equal rights didn’t it? Although I might be wrong on that one.
Yeh - you’re right about musicians. The best bands I played with were all intense, uptight, sensitive types who had one good gig in six (Universities etc.). The ‘worst’ bands I ever played with were sociable, interesting, extrovert, average musicians who brought the house down every time. The problem was - keeping it all together, as you implied!
+1 Sometimes, when I am alone with my thoughts, I, too, find myself generating labels.
EMOTICONS:
= Spectator. Some spectators form, I propose, another ‘problem pattern’ for Zebbie’s list … the “Let’s You and Him Fight” merchants. They support those others on the list passively, or actively, by objecting to those who object to their behaviour…
Hi Lenny - I’ve been steering close to being a bizarre version of
… I know I have been urging you to hold back. Thank you for doing so as long as you did. I know it was not easy. It did give me space to make such assessments I needed in order to create an independent plan of action. Whilst our choice of response and beliefs about likely outcomes differ, I confirm your descriptions of problem patterns.