Thanks for the reply xbitz2
groove template / a slicing based on hit points > create marker track from them > then align the sliced parts with macro based solution has been published in this article : Aligning Kick & Bass Parts > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct08/a > … h_1008.htm
That article seems to deal with quantizing instants in time by cutting up the audio of one and squeezing or stretching the timing of that track to meet the various transients over the course of the part to the other ‘model’ track.
I’m not trying to match any transient. I’m trying to match someone speaking, say from one source like a direct out of a mixer (e.g. saying “Hello”) with another track - that also has that ‘Hello’ from a different source (e.g. a camera mic)
I don’t wish to stretch or shrink the timing of either.
I just want them to line up so they are phase accurate.
I can manually move them to the same place, but since their waveforms are slightly different due to the way they were each recorded (mic in audience on camera vs mic on stage direct to mixer and out to protools recording on a laptop wired into the mixer).
I don’t believe it can be 100% perfect, but I do know that final cut x has found a way to do that to sync video clips from various cameras and wondered if Cubase has found a way to do that without cutting things up for rhythm section type sync of steady or metronomic beats.
Enjineer, can you walk me thru your concept?
As long as those files are aligned to begin with, slap them all in a folder, and then click the Multitrack Edit button on the folder. All editing will happen with phase alignment preserved.
I have the board mix in it’s own folder and I have the video audio in it’s folder.
I have been manually grabbing the folder track (with the folder part on the edit page) and moving it (which moves all the parts in tandem) with no problem. But how do you suggest making them line up with a separate video cam audio track. The video cam audio track is the one that is in perfect sync with the video on it’s own track above it.
I also found out by closely listening that the video camera operator contrary to any instructions I gave him,
for a short moment stopped recording in the middle, so there’s actually a part a, a small missing area of nothing (not a file) and part 2 starting moments after part 1 ended. It’s only a few seconds and luckily it was video taping a projected video that I created on a wall via drop down screen, so I was going to replace that with the original anyway.
So I can basically chop the board mix audio into 3 parts, cut and replace the middle video project part and have 3 sections that I can return the audio to Final Cut with mastered.
But I still wanted to phase sync the end 2 sections.
If not, I’ll just do the old lip sync until it looks good and forget about the camera audio except when I need more appluase since that camera was in the rear and picked up the applause better than the board mix. (same for laughter, etc. from audience).
I might in the end send this all out as a 32 bit float (which it all is now anyhow) and edit in C7.2 to avoid any plug in C8 incompatibilities others have warned about. So far, things seem ok with C8.