Im still demo’ing CB14 pro. Ive got 13 pro but hardly ever use it. CB14 seems nicer.
What i cant understand is why mono audio files are being converted to Stereo when i drag the files to the main window, and clicking on the mono/stereo button does nothing other than change the 2 circles to one. It’s still stereo.
Did the same thing in Logic and the files came in exactly as they were recorded (ironically in Cubasis 3.7).
Im on a MacBook Pro M1 running Sonoma.
Hi,
if you drag a mono file from where exactly into the project window…?
If you drag a mono file onto a stereo track, well, it resides on a stereo track but it is still a mono file. The label does not change the inherent quality of the signal.
Think of it that way: A true stereo signal contains (additional) different information on each side (left/right) - a mono signal contains the same information on both sides. Hence, it does not matter if you change a mono track to a stereo track labelwise - both speakers will spit out the exact same information on each side and the source remains a mono signal.
When panning comes into play things get more complicated. But that’s another story.
Clicking on that button should change the channel count of the track itself, from 1 to 2, or 2 to 1, i.e. switches between “mono” and “stereo” channel counts on that track.
How is your metering set and what is your routing?
If the track that you are switching stereo-to-mono on has the output set to a stereo output bus and your metering is set to “post-panner” then I think you would get two meters in the meter section. I don’t have Nuendo open now but you can check this easily by just creating a mono track and setting the output to a stereo bus, look at the meter, then change the output to a mono bus, look at the meter. Is it different?
IIRC, when you render/bounce a “stereo” track with the mono button active, the bounced or rendered track will show a single mono waveform. Maybe just on rendering, I haven’t tried bouncing tbh.
Thanks for the replies.
The steps i took were to create a new project, that only had the stereo output track, and drag the .wav files in to the main project window one at a time. This resulted in the tracks being created as i did them.
I had not set up any routing as such, no effects and sends etc, just all going direct to the main stereo out.
Its been a while since i last used CB, and ive not done it this way before, but this is how i use Logic.
Mattias, your tip about changing the metering was a good one. This does seem to change the meters to a single one when i change the track to mono, but I then seem to loose the ability to pan it left and right. Im sure it possible but id have thought this would be something set by default. Obviously i could just leave the channels as they are.
Seems a bit easier in Logic, just one click, ability to pan stays active.
I want to go back to using CB, but it seems like every thing i need to do is a bit less complicated in Logic.
I think you’re imagining a problem that doesn’t exist
Click the stereo/mono track button…just one click…The track is now mono, the abilty to pan remains.
Why would you specifically need to see a mono meter where you can’t see at a glance where the track is panned?
Also if I drag in mono audio it automatically creates the mono track so actually no need for any clicks…not sure why you aren’t getting that.
Well, first off, i except to see a mono meter on a mono track. Other Daws behave like this. Im not imagining this.
I agree, seeing the dual meters is quite handy, but this is why i asked, as it’s not clear unless you know CB is not working like others.
Yes, i agree, it’s quite handy to see the meters and where the pan is going, but as i said, it wasn’t expected.
Again id expect a mono wav file to produce a mono track. This is not happening.
Never mind, ive done the project in Logic and will stick with what works for me.
Im talking about the good ones .
Seriously, it was a simple project that it had to get out, and in that time i had to make a thread on a web forum, google it (with no real solution) and wast time trying to figure it out. Took me 30 mins in Logic start to finish.
CB pro is better than Logic, but i find (now that it have used Logic for a few months) the work flow is not friendly unless you spend a lto of time with it.
Ive recorded bands with it in the past, so im not new, but i am rusty, and its not very user friendly IMO.
@Davebass5 you are over-complicating this whole issue. TBH this has nothing to do with one DAW being better than another, it’s rather a question of knowledge and experience. What you see in the meters of Cubase depends entirely on how you set up the mixer channel metering behaviour. Cubase benefits from maximum flexibility in this area.
To achieve mono meter behaviour when you switch a channel to mono, proceed as follows:
open the mixer in the lower zone or in a separate window
right-click on the meter of any channel
in the pop-up menu which appears select Global Meter Settings>Meter Position>Post-Fader
commence playback and switch the channel between mono and stereo
As you switch the channel back and forth between mono and stereo you will see the meter activity change from mono to stereo accordingly. Once set to post-fader, all other channel metering will also react in this manner. It’s as simple as that.
P.S. Dragging a mono audio file onto blank space in the project window will automatically create a mono audio track. Similarly, doing the same with a stereo audio file will automatically create a stereo audio track. The channel status of the new track is initially set according to the source audio.
P.P.S. In Cubase, it’s also possible to drag a mono audio file or mono audio event onto an existing stereo track and vice versa. Once again, this is to maintain maximum flexibility.
Oh dear…
If I import a mono track in Cubase > a mono track is created. Unless I import a stereo track.
And even if I were to put a mono signal on a stereo track for reasons - the source material cannot turn into stereo unless I add something to it.
Are you sure you have not imported stereo tracks in the first place that contained mono material for whatever reason?
Anyhow, I am not on a mission to convince you to use Cubase instead of Logic. Whatever suits your needs best is the right choice!
Do you mean with regard to metering? If so then you need to set global metering to post fader, as outlined above.
As mentioned by @Reco29 you may have dragged a mono audio file onto a stereo track and you are probably monitoring post panner. Change your global monitoring to post fader instead.