I am trying to use physical faders to control CC1 and CC11 in libraries in Cubase 14 Pro, Windows 10/PC.
First: what are some common libraries that implement both CC1 dynamics/modulation and CC11 expression that can be controlled with external physical faders ?
I was shocked to learn today that Musio instruments which use Cinesamples libraries that have been around a long time do NOT. They only allow CC1 with a modwheel (which I assume can be mapped to a fader ?)
I thought by now this was industry standard since for years I’ve seen LOTS of videos using Midi Learn to map all kinds of physical controller buttons, knobs, and faders to sample libraries, often for CC1 and CC11 in adjacent faders for dynamics and expression simultaneously.
Second: For libraries that do allow conrol of their CC1 and CCll externally, can most all be made to do so using MIDI Remote ?
Third: Can Quick Controls be mapped to external physical faders to achieve this ? I think Quick Controls can be programmed to send any CC message, right ? If so, I would just like to be able to control the small/awkward Quick Control sliders with physical fader counterparts.
Any information would be MUCH appreciated. I’ve been struggling…
Too many to list. I’d say a majority do, although some are indeed only CC1.
Musio and Cinesamples don’t have the best programming IMHO. I don’t use them anymore for that reason and more. Of the developers that definitely have them include Spitfire, VSL, OT, CSS, etc.
Alternatively you could swap out your controller to access CC7 as volume, which should effectively accomplish the same or similar thing in lieu of CC11.
I have a fader controller which I have set fixed to CC1 and CC11 next to each other, so I can ride them while playing the keyboard, but I could also remap them to any other CC values I wish – which I do sometimes temporarily to access other CC values a library may have (vibrato, filter etc).
Someone else will have to speak to the quick controls, I haven’t use them much and am less experienced in that area (though I’d imagine mapping to any CC should be possible).
I am trying to do what you apparently are doing: two physical faders side-by-side, one with CC1 and one with CC11. Are you on a Windows PC, and did you do it with MIDI Remote in Cubase ? If so after creating the layout and then going to the “Mapping Assistant” can you describe what you put in it to connect the layout to Cubase ? I’ve made the layout and I see movement in it when I wiggle the faders, but not sure how to proceed after that with the Mapping Assistant.- Bob
So the majority of midi faders are not motorized. Meaning you can record in a performance but they will not move and follow automation like a console fader. You do not need to setup Quick Controls for this type of workflow. I personally have been using non-motorized faders for my entire career and actually prefer it.
That being said, please specify which type of workflow you are looking for and then we can make some recommendations for hardware.
It was actually pretty much plug and play for me, since most of the libraries I use already respond to CC1 and CC11, and the controller I’m using I have assigned the faders to CC1 and CC11 - so when I plug it in, Cubase has automatically recognized it as a midi device and with any track selected, it just works, with no additional mapping required!
To answer your other questions, no sorry I’m on a Mac, I’ve never had to deal with mapping assistant or layouts or quick controls. Like I said I just plugged it in and started “fading”.
My controller was not cheap, but I really like it. The build quality and aesthetic is fantastic. HARMONY – Viper Synths
Though most midi-based controllers with faders should be able to map to CC1 and CC11 and work.