Change default envelope shape to square?

[mbean]

Hi when i duck a section on an envelope, it defaults to a ramped up and down (pictured). Is there any way to adjust the default envelope shape to be a square instead of including the ramp? thanks

[Marker]

There is an option, but it does not go below 1 ms

[PG1]

The answer from @Marker is correct.
Two successive points cannot be at the same timeline position. This is why there is always the need to have a fade.

[mbean]

That makes sense thank you.

[Marker]

Montage lets WL cut fade to about 25 µs, hence, setting (25µs) as a minimum might be a good idea.

The Default Fade/Crossfade value is also common for Audio Editor and Montage; therefore, separate options may be good,

[cnyll]

@Marker

Montage lets WL cut fade to about 25 µs, hence, setting (25µs) as a minimum might be a good idea.

What’s so “hence” about this? I doubt there’s any practical difference between 1ms and 25μs.

[mbean]

loop 3ms of a waveform and play with an envelope shape. There is a sonic difference between a 1ms ramp and a 25us ramp.

Even when played in context, a 3db automation cut over 3ms will sound brighter/darker / harder/softer, depending on the envelope shape.

[PauloMiranda]

@cnyll

What’s so “hence” about this? I doubt there’s any practical difference between 1ms and 25μs.

Oh, but there is.

[Marker]

If you see above clip, there is an option in Reaper to reduce default fade to one tenth of a millisecond. The track above is a 4 second track and below, is a reference track with 1 ms to the left of marker.

Or even otherwise, when minimum fade is already 25µs, I think that has to be WL’s default minimum value.