Channel Strip user presets recalled incorrectly

Please confirm.
(see the repro instructions at the bottom)

User presets are not being recalled correctly, specifically in Magneto on the channel strip.

Today, I used Waves Q-Clone to visualize the EQ curve of Magneto on the channel strip. Interesting stuff.

Here is my Magneto channel strip setting right before I saved it as a Strip preset, with the HF-Adjust set at +2dB:

You see a little lift in the high end on that Q-clone graph?

Now, here’s that very same preset that I saved now loaded onto a completely new channel:

No high-end lift at all.

But, now, if I change the number for the HF-Adjust from 2.0 to something else, like 2.1, the problem goes away and the graph reflects the change with a high end lift.

I tried multiple times to recreate, re-save, and reload presets in Magneto on the channel strip, on different channels, and it was always the same result with the HF-Adjust setting recalling incorrectly.

NOTE: I did not test this extensively regarding other controls in Magneto or with other channel strip plugins.

Cubase 14.0.10.
Mac OSX Sonoma 14.7.1
Macbook Pro M3


Reproduction:

  1. run some audio through a channel.
  2. load magneto in the channel strip and crank the HF-Adjust as high as it will go.
  3. if you don’t really hear much of a change, set the other magneto controls differently, then re-check to make sure the HF-Adjust is clearly doing something audible.
  4. Save this as a strip preset.
  5. unload magneto, reload it, then load your saved preset.
  6. Do you hear the same sound you heard before?
  7. If you can’t tell, simply change the HF-Adjust number down by 0.1 and see if you notice a drastic change in sound.
  8. if you do hear a drastic change in sound, you have confirmed the bug.

Can confirm using the above described procedure, the HF doesn’t seem to load correctly. Other controls seem fine, as far as I tested.

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I cannot confirm. I have even created a copy of the track after step 3, so that I can switch between the two different versions easily.
I hear no difference.

Also a null test between two tracks reveals no difference.

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Cannot confirm, either. Recalling the strip preset created bring the same sound as when I saved it. Overall, same conclusion as Johnny Moneto : the preset is recalled as expected.

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Hmm… Intermittent bug?
The worst kind.

Computer specs?

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X / Asus Prime X470 Pro / 32 Gb DDR4 / Windows 10 Pro 22H2 / RME Fireface UCX…

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Latest version of Cubase?

Yep, Cubase Pro 14.0.10.

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What are your computer specs? And Cubase version?

Windows 11, Cubase 14.0.10. And in another project I actually could not reproduce it.
The difference was that my first project was a Cubase 12 project (my general bug check/technical test project). even if I re-saved that, the effect was there (HF setting doesn’t seem to get applied when loading strip preset, only after moving the control a bit. Tested with pink noise for clear audbility)
In a project newly created with C14, everything seems to work fine. Also tried an old v10 project - doesn’t load correctly.
Weird one…

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That’s a lot of good info. Thanks for doing that. So it’s not specific to Mac or PC, but may have something to do with old projects as I was also working in my template which I’ve carried forward from older versions of Cubase.

What’s the procedure for making sure this bug gets reported back to Steinberg?

I’ve tagged it as an “issue.”
Is there anything more to do?

You can open a support ticket at steinberg.net, describe the issue and best also link to this thread. Don’t expect any answer for a long time, though, and I wouldn’t hold my breath either for this issue being fixed soon…

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Hello - just an idea on this… could be project/template specific…?

Anyway, perhaps post a ‘dummy’ (small) project built from the older template that shows the issue.? Others here (including any lurking SB staff.!) could then grab it and try on their systems in C14, to confirm/deny/investigate further.?

I hope I can make time for it. Maybe this week.
I certainly would if requested by a SB staff member.

That said, I would presume SB staff are closely watching this forum and looking for confirmed bugs and testing them, at least quietly.