Is there any way to get a clef and transposition override for a given flow?
It seems only to be possible at the beginning of the piece.
My problem:
I am confronted with the frustrating experience of condensing bassoon parts. This seems to be a known problem, but it just will not be addressed properly by dorico…
When condensing, dorico always uses the clef of the first instrument. This does not work at all with bassoons, if 1st and 2nd differ, always bass clef has to be used, not tenor clef of the 1st bassoon. Nobody is used to read very low notes in tenor clef.
The workaround I am using is this: I assign the 1st bassoon part as “non transposing” and the score as “transposing”. Then I can assign the clef changes as aplying only to one or the other. This works well, however, this does not work at the beginning of a flow since dorico does not allow clef changes direct at the beginning.
At the beginning of a whole piece, I can use the setup option “celf and transposition override” to get the needed key in the 1st bassoon. However, I find no way to do this at the beginning of a new flow.
Does anybode know a solution? How do you fix the bassoon condensing (or other condensing which need different clefs in score and part)?
It would be great to have a better solution for this!
It is in fact quite common in a score to see low notes in tenor clef for the second bassoon. The part would of course stay in bass clef. And if the ranges really are so far apart, you aren’t really saving space by having them share a staff in the first place, no matter the clef.
I am sorry, that is definitely not right (at least for the symphonic music I am dealing with), and I am bassoonist and conductor myself. It is absolutely common to have a g’ three lines above the staff, but it is absolutely uncommon (and not good readable) to have the E1 with three lines below in tenor clef.
And: I don’t want the software to force me, how to write this. It should be possible to get this in bass key. A simple solution could be to be able specify a preferred clef for each condensing group. A better solution could be to be able to assign the clefs individually for the layouts.
If you want the instruments to condense, then they all have to have the same clef change at the same point. You can’t have two instruments with different clefs sharing a staff.
It is possible to locally hide the clef, so that the clef won’t show in a given layout. I did this recently for Horns.
As I described above: I found a way to individually use the clef changes.
But how do I get different clefs at the beginning of a flow, as in your example?
I can’t use a clef change, since that will be made to a regular clef at the beginng of a flow. And if I change the regular clef, it will always change in score and part together.
