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If Dorico is supported as an ARA plug-in, will users be able to use Dorico in Cubase and Nuendo? Am I right? Music moves!

In Write mode, when Play is pressed, the cursor stays static and the music moves beneath it.

Let’s see how that might work, so Dorico would release a VST with the ARA extension that Cubase, Nuendo or heck any DAW theoretically could load up. Would Dorico need to be running? Or perhaps the VST can read .dorico files directly, and you just configure it in the VST setup screen.

OK, then what? I’m not too knowledgeable about the VST architecture but I think it’s one way isn’t it? I’d think this interface is meant to be from the DAW to the Dorico, so it gives you a new way to import, and/or have live scoring from the DAW projects. But presumably not the other way around - you can’t take a project from Dorico and push it into the DAW, which is the feature most useful to me (DAW’s should be at the end of the toolchain, not beginning and it’s only a historical accident (and lack of musical education) that people do it the other way around.)

Yeah, maybe … but instead if the VST had a back end connection to Dorico (maybe via that automation interface they added a release or two ago) then that would be a way to work in a DAW and have world class notation finally. This seems more likely the way they’d do it.

OK that’s a good candidate - not something I’d care for, but Hollywood would like it.

Sounds incredible! This would work like Melodyne ARA in Cubase, right?

That’s audio only, though, isn’t it…

I’m guessing they had planned to release one a day, and forgot yesterday, so we get two more today:

Dave… you are a genius!

P.S. Don’t stop.

I hope for Pen input (like with a mouse - not handwriting) in iPad an a decent playback

I really hope this means the tooltips come back!

Hunh, now they’re pushing the ballet motif making it obvious maybe it is a literal having to do with movement, ballet, choreography notation? Didn’t know there was such a thing, checking it out seems too niche to focus on at this point.

Or just reusing B roll from the shoot … but they keep pushing the ā€˜music that moves’ hint. OK I’ll continue to stick with the idea of DAW integration as most likely - moving your music between apps.

And since it only works if you have/use Dorico, the Cubase/Nuendo folks don’t have to make a big deal of it, they could just drop a minor update with support, if needed.

For the market they’re serving, I think dance notation is far too niche. For much of any investment of time and brainpower, they’d never recupe. Perhaps it’s more functionality between desktop and iPad versions. I dunno.

My daughter is a ballet dancer. I just asked her if ā€œdance notationā€ is even a thing, and she said Labanotation is, but no one really uses it. I can’t imagine integration with that would be very marketable.

Am I the only one that dislikes marketing teasers? Nikon does it too. So much speculation and guessing. Ah well, maybe people enjoy seeing if they are right! [Mr Curmudgeon signing off! ] :slight_smile:

There are very detailed notations for French 18C dance steps and movements, very sophisticated. So it’s obviously that. [joke alert]

A week is too long for me, teasers are fun but start at most the weekend before, or even Monday if you release on a Wednesday. That way the wait isn’t too long.

I had asked a while ago for score following and OSC capability in Dorico to help drive electronics/video in a live performance. Although I expect my specific request might be a bit too much of a niche, I wonder if they’ve added some kind of live performance support, potentially through integration with Steinberg’s ā€œVST Liveā€.

@DanMcL , @ebrooks
I may be wrong, as @ebrooks pointed out. There are several software programs that support audio-to-MIDI using ARA.

@mducharme
OSC might be cool. It is mostly used to control sound. Demonstrating electroacoustic music using Dorico could be more efficient if OSC was supported.

I think they are just showing BTS of the new Version trailer, how it was shot, who was involved etc.

I wouldn’t read too much back from the video content to the announcement, apparently they decided to go with the ā€žmusic that movesā€œ slogan first and logically continued a visual representation from there.

The superposition of music notation projected dance is rather aesthetically pleasing, I find. A very nice idea

I found myself thinking the same thing. Bearing in mind that Dorico was used to launch Steinberg’s new licensing systems, maybe the same approach is being taken with new cloud-based systems.

That’s an interesting idea. But it’s one thing to have a simple master server authentication system, and another to have a peer to peer CDN, would Steinberg want to tackle that? I mean you’d have to ensure somebody in the Middle East can work seamlessly with another on Starlink up in Alaska, for example. Depending on what service is being offered that goes from easy (AWS file serve) to more challenging.

Besides which composers/arrangers/etc are loners for the most part (work wise), I wonder the value of it. Seems like just supporting transfer between Dorico and DAW would be better. Interesting to speculate on though …