I was curious if I could get some guidance here. When I condense my choir staves down to two players per stave, there is a redundant Lyric placement
that is quite combersome and uneeded. Is there a settin that might just leave ome line of lryic text under the condensed stave instead of one above and below?
You’ll probably get a shared line of lyrics if you can get the condensing result into one voice.
If you want to keep this in 2 voices (both up-stem and down-stem) then consider only giving one part the lyrics.
If you don’t need the voice parts to appear on a different number of staves in some layouts (eg if you want to keep them on 4 staves in the vocal score but squish them into 2 in the full score) then it might be worth considering handling this manually, rather than using the automatic condensing feature, as that gives you more control over the result.
Thanks for this Lillie. When you say handle this manually, how would you go about this without creating more staves or separate parts?
T
I mean using two staves from the outset for S/A and T/B, if you don’t need them to be on 4 staves in some layouts (eg a vocal score)
If you’re not actually creating multiple layouts with different staves, then I wouldn’t bother using Condensing. Just put the music onto two voices of the same staff. (In fact, for a unison passage, you don’t even need the second voice. Just a text object saying “T +B” or similar.)
Thanks again Lillie!
Here is what worked for me, and pretty quickly I might add.
I started with the sperate choir parts and took off score condensing. I then added a new section player ( Choir Reduction). This gave me the two staves. I then copied S,A and reduced their parts into the top stave. Did the same with the T,B into the bottom. It took care of the lyrics automatically. Done. Any other adjustments to be made could be done in post with engrave mode. That worked well for me at least.
Thanks again!
T
Sorry to hop on late here, but I think this would be a fantastic feature to add to condensing: the ability to selectively hide a staff’s lyrics. The condensing feature is extremely capable and…. Almost there with vocal music. I run into situations where I do need to keep voices distinct (for the purposes of practice tracks) as well as condensed, for scores.
One way I have tried in the past is to use cues with full sized notes to condense, but it’s rather finicky.
The Team has indicated that they want to give proper support to choral condensing in the past. It just hasn’t happened yet. As it happens, some of the members of the dev. team are (or were, at least) very involved in choral music making, so this would touch close to home, even.
If I had to hazard a guess, part of the reason this hasn’t been dealt with yet is because it’s very easy to get the desired result with some manual editing, unlike certain other issues which cannot really be worked around satisfactorily.
And when the feature appears, no doubt it will be a graceful solution that pleasantly surprises us.
