Condensing overwrite requests

[yusayit]

Hi,

I am working at very crowded scores which requires a lot of overwrite in condensing.

The usual problem is when I have passages from two instruments, with diferent slur lengths, and I need part of them to be united (either unison, or same stem) in order to simplify optically the score.

Currently I am achieving that with force stem (up/down), Voice index 0 and moving the articulation to right side of the note, and work around to make the ties and slurs to overlap and when is the case ad manually “a2” or “unis.”

In this process I discovered some inconveniences which would be great if to be fixed in the next update.

• Whenever there is a doted note and I use force stem, the dot is doubled vertically. Could it be an option to work around this, or to stack two dots manually? Now is impossible to do that.

• Whenever there are slurs or ties involved, when use forced stem, they are not consolidated in one slur. I do it manually by overlapping them (when is about ties) or I use transparent color for slurs. Could it be an option to do that automatically without so much graphic editing?

  

• Sometimes I need to force stem for notes which are not unison. Whenever there is a beaming group, they act chaotically, but with some editing it is solved. The issue is whenever there are ties involved, the beaming bar become stacked and is impossible to overlap the beaming bars. I do a trick by replacing the ties with slurs, but that gives a lot of headaches for manual editing.

Ideally would be that condensing should be upgraded, in order to be able to do this things under slurs without doing so many overwriting, but as I see, there are 3 upgrades since this has been requested and no sign of resolving.

But these smaller things could help achieving the desired result without many major improvement in condensing.

Thank you and if any of you has other suggestion about these things, I am more than welcome to listen.

[Estigy]

I’ll happily admit that I’m not sure I do exactly understand what you need.

Can’t you solve some of your problems with Condensing Changes by doing manual condensing?

Maybe an example file would help so we can play around and help.

[yusayit]

So how would you reproduce this:

[LAE]

Actually I don’t think it is possible to take care of it with condensing changes or settings.
I just have this to take care of:

If I understand the OP correctly, my situation is a bit similar, just a bit less complicated.
Ideally I would like this (sorry, different tranposition but you get the point):

…or even amalgamating the slur to get this:

But adding a condensing change in bar 2, 4th beat does nothing. And trying to manually condense from the start into upstem voice 1 for 1.5 bars and then resetting hides the slur.

[LAE]

I tried, and it is not possible with the usual methods. You have come up with a very elaborated method, but it would drive me crazy if I had to do it…
In your case, I think I would have gone for the method of writing it out myself.

However, if it is an option for you, consider keeping only one of the hairpins and only one of the slurs (for the score). That will save some space.