Condensing Rythmic Help

I need to find a fix for this condensing issue. I will try to explain this so it is understandable but I am confused myself on how to explain it. Please see the 3 screen shots of several measures in Clarinet 2 & 3… The first is my original Finale score. The second is the Dorico score of the same measures in Engrave Mode and the 3rd is the same measures in Write Mode with condensing turned on. I would like for the condensed Dorico score to look like the original Finale score. Notice the 3ed measure from the end and the 5th measure from the end in all 3 scores.

In shot 2 (Dorico) the two parts are rhythmically correct. When I condense them (shot 3) the 8th notes in the 3rd Clarinet become tied 16th notes in the condensed version.
How do I get these two measures to visually look like the #1 shot (Finale)?
I hope that all makes sense.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
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Hmm. Let’s try this again.

ghfagan51

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I need to find a fix for this condensing issue. I will try to explain this so it is understandable but I am confused myself on how to explain it. Please see the 3 screen shots of several measures in Clarinet 2 & 3… The first is my original Finale score. The second is the Dorico score of the same measures in Engrave Mode and the 3rd is the same measures in Write Mode with condensing turned on. I would like for the condensed Dorico score to look like the original Finale score. Notice the 3ed measure from the end and the 5th measure from the end in all 3 scores.

In shot 2 (Dorico) the two parts are rhythmically correct. When I condense them (shot 3) the 8th notes in the 3rd Clarinet become tied 16th notes in the condensed version.
How do I get these two measures to visually look like the #1 shot (Finale)?
I hope that all makes sense.
Thanks for any help you can offer.



I am beginning to think that one can’t condense two parts that have different rhythms. Is that correct?

No. What you need are Condensing Changes. In your setup, apparently, you’ve set as preference that instruments must condense as one voice (same rhythm, single-stem only). This will often be correct, until the rhythms differ. Dorico chooses a new condensing approach automatically when it encounters a rest. But if there’s no rest, it will keep using the same method. You can instruct Dorico to start a new stretch of condensing also by inserting a Condensing Change for those instruments. In a Condensing Change, you can explicitly specify how the condensing must work from there on, if you need to, but in many cases, it’s enough to just tick the checkbox for the instrument group, and let Dorico decide what’s the best way to proceed.

Thank you for the response. I have a rehearsal this evening but will work on this tomorrow. I am feeling like I am feeling more and more comfortable with Dorico in the past few weeks, except for Condensing, which seems to want to stay just above my pay grade : )
Thanks again,
Gary

There are so many parameters in that Condensing change window and I don’t know which ones I want to check, if any, and which ones I want to leave unchecked. So far, I have checked none of them.
Gary

You only need all of the stuff on the right and bottom when you need to manually specify how the condensing needs to be. In many cases, it suffices to just check the checkbox for the relevant instruments in the left column. This instructs Dorico to re-evaluate the condensing method for those instruments.

That is what I have been doing, just checking the checkbox beside the staves I am trying to “re-condense”. I will take another shot tomorrow.
Thank again.
Gary