Control mixer faders with Akai MidiMix or similar

I’m probably being dense here but I cannot see how to get control of the mixer using an external board such as Akai Midimix or Korg NanoKontrol.

I’ve selected the device as a midi in, but where do I set parameters for the mixer to see a controller?
Thanks

It’d be great to just have this small surface onstage for simple adjustments to various tracks.

Hi @Dr_Scardo,

there are two ways:

#1 Use visual MIDI Learn

Activate the MIDI Learn Control, then select a Control and move your external MIDI control. After that the control is connected to your external device.

#2 User “Actions and Shortcuts”

Open “Menu / Devices / Actions and Shortcuts…” and select the “Channel” Tab. Add a new Action, select “Volume”, select row and activate the “Learn” control. Now move your external MIDI control and the Volume of Channel 1 will be connected to your external control

See you,
Michael.

Wow thanks Micha replying at the very same moment :slight_smile:
me wrote:
Click the „Learn“ button (bottom left), select an item to learn and operate your hardware controller.
Note that the assignment works using channel index. After learning you can see the result in „Devices/Actions and Shortcuts/Channels“ and modify it if you wish.

:slight_smile:

/Michael

fantastic - thanks, will try that now.

OK so faders volume, all good. However I cannot control sends levels (separate output to cans). I select learn, highlight the send but when using either a pan pot or a fader it does nothing. Any ideas? In fact when I select the send, it boxes yellow, then when I move a controller, it turns white but nothing happens.

Hi! I’m controlling Sends, but never used LEARN, instad doing all settings manually under ‘Actions and Shortcuts’. Then goto “channel” and add line with “+”, etc… :slight_smile:

… fine!

… let’s try :

  1. Start VL, New Project
  2. Select MIXER, (e)xpand “Song 1” Channel and add a Send with a Destination to Stereo Out
  3. Activate MIDI Learn, select the Send Volume and move the external Controller
  4. Select now Volume of “Song 1” Channel and move another external Controller

All if working fine.

  1. Let’s open the “Menu / Devices / Actions and Shortcuts”
  2. Select the Channels tabs to verify everything
  3. The Actions are working with “MIDI IN 1”. Let’s open the “Menu / Devices / Connections”

All looks fine.

Have you verified everything after your visual LEARN process? Where could be a problem in your setup?

See you,
Michael.

Nope, same thing happens. Furthermore, if I adjust the send using my MacBook trackpad, I can only lower it to infinity (and beyond!) and then cannot easily raise it again. I have to position the cursor to a very particular pixel it seems. And once it starts moving in one direction it will not stop or change direction despite me changing gesture.

The send does not respond to midi learn for pots or faders. The channel faders do respond to both faders and pots.

Solo and mute appeared to accept buttons from MidiMix, but in fact operate momentarily , not toggle on/off - this could be a MidiMix setting problem so I can look into that.

Also, despite have Main and Cans set to two pairs of outputs in my audio device (Metric Halo ULN2) I can only see Main in the drop down menu when adding a send. Or rather - I see “Stereo out” - even though I’ve named my pairs Main and Cans. It would be better if the outputs could reflect my settings - there’ll be several pairs login plus mono click tracks, and I’d rather not be looking for numbers over names.

Now to the Korg NanoKontrol - more success with mute and solo, but the same result with sends. Nothing.

I note also that there is no midi learn for DMX faders - is this intentional?

I’ll add that this is a MacBook Pro 2.5 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, running Monterey 12.7.6.
I can happily use the MidiMix and Korg in other apps, Cubase 12/14, Nuendo 13, Studio One 6.5, Mixbus 10 Pro.

… have you tried a fresh and simple project? Is working there?
… can you post me a screenshot of your mixer which MIDI learn enabled?

/Michael.

Also make sure to check Devices/Actions and Shortcuts. May try different UI type, also often data2 from/to are set to the same value, try to set from to 0, and to to 127.

This was a fresh empty project

Not keen on editing numbers, data etc. I had enough programming hexadecimal and MSDos in the 90s, I just want to plug in and use, as I can in all other apps, sorry. I’ll wait for full midi learn functionality as in Cubase et Al.

Sure, but the learn function takes what it gets. If however you want a range, as is with dials and faders, you may have to set these, it’s very simple. Also MIDI Channel needs to match.

But if I use the global Learn function (bottom left) to learn a channel send, and operate a dial on my keyboard or controller, it works right away. This is just to help in case it doesn’t.