Control Room Preset Duplication

[Thor.HOG]

Greetings! I’ve found a couple of older threads in the Cubase forums, but without solutions or any other information:

Multiple control room presets

I’m using Cubase 10.5 pro, version 1-.5.2-, Build 179. Over time the Control Room presets self populate - today I have over 150 presets, most of which are ‘Cub105A’ or ‘Default’. Cubase seems to generate them itself. I’ve attached a screenshot. I have culled the surplus ones, leaving just 7, but they repopulate over time. As you can’t select several and delete them, it’s time consuming. I notice that a project doesn’t always reload the correct configuration, and I have to manually select the pr…

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/multiple-control-room-presets/152021https://forums.steinberg.net/t/pls-help-cubase-duplicated-presets-in-control-room/809417

I rebuilt my Control Room connections with a brand new file just a couple of days ago, and have saved my current (and only) “main” preset of “UAD 7.1” - it works fine, but every time I open Nuendo, it creates another “Default” preset, and keeps creating a new one each time I launch:

You’ll note in that screenshot the current Bus configuration is Nuendo “default.”

Now, if I clear them all out except for my “UAD 7.1” and create an empty project, the empty project will show “No Preset” with the bus config matching that of my 7.1 config, but now there are 2 “Default” presets, one that pulls up my 7.1 config, and one that pulls up the actual default stereo/Monitor1 config.

Here’s were things get interesting. If I delete them all again other than my 7.1 preset, but then save my 7.1 preset again with the name “default” (note the lowercase “d”) I have this before exiting:

Looks good. Now I exit and go back in and create an empty project:

The “No Plugin” preset is selected, and it is the 7.1 bus config. But the two “Defaults” are back, and both with uppercase “D.” The first “Default” loads the 7.1 config, but the second “Default” loads the Stereo/Monitor1 config:

Now I open an existing project, select the UAD 7.1 Control Room preset, save it, close out, and relaunch N13, this time using Open Recent to load the one I just saved.

It opens to a new default “No Plugin” with the Stereo/Monitor 1 configuration, and now there are 3 “Defaults,” and only the middle one has the 7.1 config:

Looking at the other posts, it seems like they too use Apollo interfaces, though one dude has “APOLLO Dangerous Audio” so I’m not sure.

Comparing the original ControlRoomPresets.pxml with a copy, there doesn’t appear to be any obvious xml mangling created by the Apollo-specific data which may cause some parsing error (from my limited ability to determine) so I don’t know if that is relevant or not.

Does anyone have any insight into what’s causing this? It’s no biggie because I can just copy my current xml set to a backup and overwrite the concatenated version whenever I feel like it, but I’m curious if others have seen this and have ideas.

Cheers.

[Thor.HOG]

This has been fixed in N14, just in case anyone comes along and see it.

[chrisrockkz]

I have the same problem with N14.

[Thor.HOG]

It may be worth it to create a new preferences Profile set (in Profile Manager) and see if a new set still exhibits the same behavior. I’ve not had a recurrence of this on any of my 3 studio workstations (Mac Studio, MBP, iMac Pro).

[chrisrockkz]

Same behavour after that I’m on Windows.. new Profile, deleted all CR defaults. Now creating a new project and one Default on Top, My saved CR and then another Default. That’s annoying…

[Reco29]

Did you restart Nuendo after modifying your CR settings? Profiles won’t save them unless you do.
Here’s a tutorial on saving profiles in case you are interested.

[chrisrockkz]

Yes, I already did everything.. I deinstalled old Nuendo 13 installation, deleted the AppData Folder of the Nuendo12_64. But it’s all the same. Every time I start Nuendo I got not open my saved CR Preset (every time default) and I have 2 default presets. This is very bad for me, because I do a lot of remote-sessions with VST Connect.

[Reco29]

You probably did that but I’m asking anyways: you saved your CR preset under a dedicated name in the F4 dialog, right? And Nuendo is closing without a crash?

[Yvan]

Did you have a chance to check with Nuendo 15? We change these Control Room presets managing, they are now saved as individual files.

for N14 you have to be sure that your backup file, you have created for the presets, is not located in this preset folder….

[chrisrockkz]

I was in the beta program, but of course that was the one thing I didn’t check

After I deleted the backup file, it now only creates a default file every time. So we’ve made some progress and it’s creating only one even though I’ve tried several times to open Nuendo.

I’m not sure if I’m getting this mixed up in all this confusion, but I also have to reset my inputs and outputs every time I create a new project. Weren’t those always preselected?