Hello there
After loading an empty project this is what I see in the MIDI Remote section:
Of course, I do not have 3 Akais and 3 NI Kontrols, these inactive units show up as duplications.
Why are they there, and how can I banish them?
Cubase Artis 14.0.40, Mac OS 15.6.1.
THX.
Nice but they will come back upon the next launch of Cubase.
Yes, this is the problem.
Same Problem on my installation .. contacted the supprot but since a week no reaction
It’s not that simple. I was able to restart Cubase multiple times without seeing the issue. After a bunch of opening, closing, creating, and saving projects–I broke my MIDI remotes config again, but I made some helpful observations:
If you save a project or template while there are duplicate MIDI remotes, they will be there next time the project is opened.
If you manually resolve the duplicates in a project and then save it, it will be OK the next time that project is opened.
If you open a project with no duplicates, then open and activate another project in the background, the MIDI remote config from that project–good, or bad–will become the global MIDI remote configuration.
If you create an empty project (using the empty template) there should be no MIDI remote duplicates.
SideshowFX controller not affected–no duplicates. It uses Mackie Control.
I read through the API documentation and first tried to resolve the issue by deleting the “DetectionUnits” entry for my user-created MIDI remote–but it was reinserted.
Since that didn’t work, I replaced the empty “Name” fields in “DeviceMidiInput” and “DeviceMidiOutput” with the exact port names for the MIDI device my controller is attached to, and tested again.
I don’t think that helped either, since I still got duplicates when opening existing projects and when creating new projects using my user-created templates.
Here’s how I resolved the issue on my system:
It’s likely that the steps could be simplified. Steps 1 - 5 could probably be replaced with just opening an empty project from the template.
The auto-detection behavior in projects, when working with ports used by MIDI remotes, seems to be the root cause. I’m not sure it can be fixed permanently without some changes from Steinberg.
Wow, that was some extensive search and a solution that seems to be working at my end as well. Thank you.
This worked for me. Nice one, dude.
I’m having this same issue, but there might be something I’m missing. (trying to fix existing project)
If I save the “dummy” project and then reopen it I get the duplicates. You also mention that in your first bullet point, but in step 4 of your solution you close cubase. Are you not getting the duplicates when you reopen like I am?
I just tested it now, and no–I don’t get the duplicates when I re-open the “dummy” project.
Is that what you’re doing?
Ya, I just tried it again saving into a new folder, because the only thing different I did was save into an existing folder called test, but I got the same result. I’ve also deleted and reloaded the user and midi remote scripts from documents (macOS).
I only get 0 duplicates when opening the “create new” template.
I don’t see “create new” template in the Hub, but if you can save and re-open any project with no duplicates, you should probably be able to just start with step 5.
sorry on delayed response.
To clarify, there are no duplicates when creating new, but as soon as a I save and reopen it there are duplicates. It’s only the initial loading of the create new that has no duplicates.
Is the template you’re using to “create new” something you made yourself?
In most cases, you’ll have to use “+ Create Empty…” to successfully create a project that doesn’t have duplicates after you’ve saved and re-opened it. Using a pre-existing template won’t work if there’s already something wrong with it.
Here’s my workaround for Cubase 15, which is based on various tips from this forum.
Point 1: Don’t use “Create Empty”; instead, use templates that you create from a project that doesn’t contain any duplicates. “Create Empty” is buggy for me, too.
Point 2: If you’re not sure whether an old project contains such duplicates, don’t open it under any circumstances, because in the worst case, it will destroy your settings again.
Point 3: NEVER manually delete any duplicates, because a bug in Cubase will almost certainly corrupt the files in the MIDI Remote Documents folder.
Point 4: If you’re unsure about a project or know that it contains duplicates—whether from version 14 or 15—proceed as follows:
First, open a clean test project.
Load the corrupted project, but under no circumstances activate it.
Save the corrupted project under a new name.
When you reopen this newly created project, it should no longer contain any duplicates.
Steinberg could easily fix this bug by adding a feature that removes duplicates without damaging the files in the MIDI Remote folder. With the current feature, the port assignments in the file are deleted, which is why the MR no longer works.
Unfortunately, support doesn’t understand this bug and therefore doesn’t pass it on to the programmers.
So we just have to live with it.
Good luck! 
@XLColdJ It’s just the regular “create empty” that is clean of duplicates on first load, not any templates. after saving and reopening is when the duplicates appear.
@Realist Which files are corrupted that need to be deleted before starting fresh and taking these precautions?
user scripts, driver scripts, something within preferences?
It’s important that you set up a working Midi Remote that loads without any issues or duplicate files. Then, save the entire Midi Remote folder—located in the Documents folder—as a backup. That way, if any problems arise, you can always use the backup folder to restore the files.
I’ve described exactly what gets deleted here:
Could you simplify that for me with clear steps? I don’t understand computer code, I just want to make the bass go wobble wobble.. lol.
If I delete the the midi remote folder, is that something that will rebuild itself on start up? in the forum you linked to, you did a clean install of cubase, is that a required step or was that just you troubleshooting?
You should NOT delete the Midi Remote folder. Please just make a backup of the folder. That way, if anything goes wrong, you’ll still have the working files as a backup.
A clean install is always recommended if something isn’t working properly. For me, it didn’t make any difference. You can skip this reset.
