Convenient way to record WET and DRY signals from the guitar

Hi ,
I know that it is possible to record 2 mono tracks at a time for wet(guitar processor) and dry (from the pickups) signals, but I usually edit the processed audio (split, merge, cut tails etc.) and after doing that to the first mono track, I need to do that on the 2 mono track, which is not convinient. I was thinking to create a stereo track with raw (dry) signal in the left and processed (wet) signal in the right. Then I can record it and then edit as I want, both signals wet and dry will be together. But how can I make assign them to the output? As for now I hear left and right together. How can I mute left and activate only right (wet)?
Is there any other solution?

WBR,
Dmitry

Once you’ve finished your edits, you could do select the stereo track, then do Project | Convert tracks | Multi-channel to Mono:
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That way you can keep the original (muted) and work on the two mono tracks seperately, one dry, one wet.

It is not good as I need to finish my edits and then Convert to Multichannel and at this point I cannot continue doing my edits.

Is it possible to work with a stereo track with left (or right) channel always muted?
I may unmute it someday later when I’ll want to reamp my guitar .

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like this on the pic. First track route audio to the right channel, second track route to left. But keep dry signal muted.

Ah, OK. The best way to do this would be to record as two mono tracks, put them in a group folder and use Group Editing Mode.

Here’s a old tutorial that also points out some of the things to be careful about when setting it up:

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If you want to record on a stereo track for easier editing, I cannot think of method to mute one side of a stereo channel in Cubase atm, but there are third party plugins (like e.g. DMGAudio TrackControl, free) that allow you to do that.

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Group Editing mode is a very good option and I will use it, it is exactly what guitar players always need, it makes easier to process the separated tracks.

Third party plugins mentioned by fese for routing audio need to be tested as well, eventually it maybe be convenient.

Thanks a lot!

If you don’t have your ASIO connections already configured for this (F4), you can set up your input busses with two additional mono inputs, one for dry, one for wet:
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For example:
Connect the dry signal to the left channel and set the device port to the left channel of the (normal) stereo input.
Connect the wet signal to the right channel and set the device port to the right channel of the (normal) stereo input.
Now, create two mono tracks and set the inputs to the dry and wet input busses respectively:
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(the name can be anything)
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Select both tracks and move to new folder
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Make sure Group Editing is selected:
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Now you’re ready to record! After recording, the tracks can be individually muted (and the outputs routed).

Thanks a lot Mr. SoundMan, I didn’t expect so much help :slight_smile:
I have created the groups as you suggest:
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I need to press record (1) on the group track, as it activates 2 record buttons, which I want.

After pressing (2) the record button is activated on the track, which is not what I want. Selecting the group tracks does not activate record button, unlike normal tracks, which is not convenient.

There is another thing. Having 3 tracks (Group, Dry, Wet) for 3 guitar lines is cumbersome :slight_smile:

Anyway the solution works good and I can live with it.

Note that these are folders, and not Group Channel Tracks, which are different things and not usable in the same way. That’s why selecting it won’t enable record (actually, this is a feature I always disable – the selected track gets armed for record – to avoid mistakenly recording on the wrong track!).

It may be cumbersome, but that’s the cost of such great flexibility. Once you’ve finished recording and editing, you can then hide them all in another folder (folders can be nested inside other folders), route the track outputs to a Group Channel Track, and then just treat that as a single track in the mixer, or render it to create a new audio track.

One other great thing about group folders is that they can also contain MIDI tracks, so, if you have e.g. an electric guitar with both piezo and MIDI pickups, you could have wet, dry, piezo (electro-acoustic) and MIDI tracks all at the same time!

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