Copilot laptops and Cubase

Just wondering,

Does it worth the case having one of those Copilot laptop ? I mean with the Copilot key instead of the CTRL key ?
Is is something that will be implemented and used with DAWs like Cubase in the future ?

For now I guess it would just prevent me from doing CTRL + Enter to rename the Midi items of an instrument track…

I don’t think it will be implemented in DAWs as it is presumably tied to opening copilot regardless of what app is open.

There are two different Things here.

All new Laptops now have the Copilot key on the keyboard, but they are just ordinary laptops. The function of this key can be configured.

A real Copilot laptop has a CPU together with a NPU, like AMD Ryzen™ AI 300-Series, Intel® Core™ Ultra 200V-Series or the Snapdragon® X-Series.

Yeah you’re right. That being said, does it makes a difference? Will one or the other be of any use in regards with DAW ?

Also, I have seen that with some laptops it would be not so easy to remap and user experience says that the mapping of the copilot key might not work…

But, I didn’t knew that all new laptops had the copilot key, I thought they were all Copilot+ laptops with NPU

I personally avoid Copilot+ PCs just because of Copilot. It is useless extra load and therefore probably disturbs the DAW work.

No idea, my current Lenovo P16 has no issues here.

I’m not really in favor of it neither, for the same reason, but given that they are integrating more and more AI into software, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it integrated into a DAW like Live or Cubase someday.

I am pretty sure it will be, if not already, used in Desing, Coding program and the likes

Disable copilot and one drive along with all the other pesky things and pop up reminders, there numerous instructions on youtube to get rid of all nuisance wear and memory hooks that chew up resources and remind people to do this or buy that! Check to see when the vid was posted. There’s been some major updates on win11 recently that are really intrusive and down right sneaky!

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Win11Debloat already done on mine

Yep. And stuff like that is why we don’t get bug reports at Microsoft when musician software or hardware has problems.

The musician community is so small compared to something like gamers, and without automated crash reports (that’s what the lowest level of telemetry actually provides), issues go unnoticed.

Pete
Microsoft

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Personally i’d rather do it from within the the windows setup, it’s easier to tweak individual settings from the Microsoft menus, it’s easier to untweak if one doesn’t like settings. Everyone will have their own custom configure and unique hardware and quite often run into “odd” happenings, suspicious bug type events, so hitting a button on GUI tab is just so much simpler than messing around with shells, but each to their own, a unique setup, a Hybrid setup, hardware interface, wordclocks, different usb ports network, Dante /thunderbt 50gbs type C etc, it’s easier to keep the tweaking all in house and backed up of course. Not a huge fan of power shell and wrappers these days but each too their own eh? :slight_smile:

Yep, then you should ask yourself why people are doing this…

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Quite often for no reason at all other than they think they’re supposed to.
Some Youtubers are making money out of it though, so there’s that.

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Mostly it’s misinformation that drives it. Some of it deliberate. Some of it not. There’s money in keeping the misinformation going, though.

Combine that with a healthy mistrust of corporations (no one should ever fully trust any corporation or politician, IMO) and then you get this.

The scripts and tools that build custom images usually let you pick and choose, but folks mostly just blindly run optimization scripts which get rid of a lot of good and useful stuff along with the things that would reasonably declutter the system, regardless of what, if any of it, may actually have a runtime performance impact. They figure if it’s in that script, it must be something that should be removed.

In any case, Minimum level of telemetry is what is needed to get your PC the updates it needs, and to find trending problems before they go too far.

But I’ll get off my soapbox now.

To your original question, the Copilot key isn’t going to do anything in Cubase today. Also, not all new laptops are Copilot+ PCs. There are minimum NPU and other requirements for them to be a Copilot+ PC.

Most of the models being run in DAWs today are run on the CPU. There are apps and tech relevant to folks here which are now experimenting with NPU acceleration of AI workloads, to offload the CPU and battery. Most are already using more AI in DAWs and plugins than you realize. A lot of it is quite useful, even when running on CPU.

Although, I have been considering support for Copilot prompts like “Create a new MIDI route which splits my Montage’s MIDI output so that Groups 1 and 2 go to a new Network MIDI 2 host, and the remaining groups go to a new endpoint named Montage Split 2”

Pete
Microsoft

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Sure, and your right about the minimum level of telemetry. It’s needed. But I also think this distrust of Microsoft (and the likes) is entirely deserved.

The script by the way let you also chose what you want to remove and what you want to keep… It’s up to each of us to run it blindly or just open your eyes

So, for what I understand as a conclusion is that laptops with copilot key or copilot+ laptops are not of great interest, at least for the moment

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Wrong. The interest for Copilot+ is one thing, but the Copilot key is a completely independent thing. As far as I know all new laptops have that key now, but that doesn’t matter at all, because it is just another key on the keyboard.

On my Lenovo keyboard that key simply launches the Windows settings.

Why instead? The ctrl key is still there.

Well, that’s not my case. The laptop in front of me have the copilot key in place of the right CTRL key. So for me it would make a difference

So here is an article on the Microsoft site explaining how to make it the Ctrl key.

The real question is, did you use the Copilot button to find the article describing how to disable the Copilot button???

:rofl: No, definitely not, as I’m avoiding any of these hallucinating LLMs. A plain legacy search reveals all you need :wink:

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