Copy clip automation?

I have a final mix that I then master in Wavelab… then I REDO my final mix in Cubase… then bring that new mix back into Wavelab.

…in a montage.

Can i copy everything I did to the CLIP from the previous final mix to the new final mix, including the volume automation and VST automation?

I know I can save the effect chain and open it for the new clip, but the automation does not copy over.

The thing I can do, as a workaround, is rename the new mix to the old mix’s name and then open Wavelab. But that seems clunky.

You can simply redo your final mix with a new name; then, you exchange the file hosted by the clip with this new one.

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Yes. Just replace the clip using a new file. No need to redo any WaveLab work.

But yes, you can copy and paste clip automation and plugin chains from one to another if you must.

“Replace Audio File” is the best way IMO.

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Thanks guys. That helped a ton. I was able to replace the file, and rename the clip to the new file name.

I also love that you can remove the file from the clip altogether and just have an empty clip that still retain the plugin chain and automation. Very cool.

I looked for how to copy clip automation itself, but couldn’t find it. I presume this is probably simple enough to do for volume automation… but I’m curious if it also works for VST plugins. I presume so. For instance, I automated Squasher to give me more and less upward compression. I’d like to be able to copy that.

Hey All,

Reviving this as I would also like to know how to copy clip automation. Justin said it was possible but I’m not seeing how it’s done. Could you please explain or point to it in the manual?

In this case, I’m printing from hardware into a Catch track and then using an additional lane for another pass, so I want to copy the plugin automation from the first pass to the second.

Thanks much,

Right clip on the envelope and use these:

I think what PG is showing is the same thing I showed. It’s how you copy an envelope shape so you can paste it to another clip. It can be anything from level/gain, panning, or a plugin parameter automation. I use it a lot to copy the level/gain automation from the main version to the instrumental version if I’m mastering a single song and have the main and instrumental back to back in the new montage.

As far as I know, you can’t just copy ALL the automation in one command. You would have to insert the same plugins on the other clip, create automation envelopes one at a time to match the existing envelope, and then paste one at a time each envelope.

I think users are wanting a way to copy ALL plugin parameter automation that exists on one clip, and then paste it to another clip in one command but I don’t think that currently exists. You have to do it more manually, but it is possible to do using the Copy Shape option that PG and I showed, but what it won’t do is create the initial automation envelopes automatically. It’s not an ideal solution but it works.

This is why I suggested as a workaround to copy and paste the clip that has the desired plugins and automation drawn, and then just replace the audio file with the second pass. This way you get all the inserted plugins and automation needed on the 2nd clip, and then you just replace the audio with the 2nd pass and do any trimming if needed.