I know it’s easy-enough to simply merge all tracks, copy layer to clipboard, undo all the merges and then paste the composite clipboard to a new layer, but it would be really cool to be able to just copy whatever the Composite view is into a new layer from a right click context menu or edit menu. Or am I missing some knowledge in using the application? I have situations where I need to use the audio that hasn’t nulled in order to ensure all my processing is non-destructive.
It all comes down to logic and reason (no pun intended). Technically something like Ableton Live’s “freeze audio” could be implemented but that would probably open a pandora’s box of never-ending bugs.
The best way I could see something like this being implemented is Editing Merged Groups (as if one layer), but then you have to keep in mind that any edit you do has to be applied to all layers in that group(meaning each function must be processed individually/separately). So for example lets say you use the retangle selections tool to cut/delete something, then that cut/deletion must be applied to all layers within that group. Technically there are formulas to do (what I described above in a more efficient manner) but that is probably going to take a mathmatician to convert formulas like that in a efficient manner. The best way to articulate it what I just wrote is to think of the idea of sum audio or phase cancelation, in sum audio or phase cancelation there’s a basic formula there, what you’re describing would need someone who is great at converting basic calculations(edits like cut and paste) into more simpler formulas, so that anything you do to one merged group could be applied to all layers within that group without interfering with the phase while not having to process each function for each separate layer for each separate edit(like cut and paste) you do.
As far as i’m aware, the composite view is simply the mixed sum of all channels displayed to the spectragraph so if you have an inverted phase it becomes part of the net sum. The issue is a workflow one in that it would be nice to bounce that Composite audio SpectraLayers already has in memory to a layer, because that Composite view can represent anything destructive that isn’t nulling back to the master. All work I do has to be non-destructive for my main client.
Not exactly. It’s the sum of all live audio(layers) that are not muted. If a layer is muted then it wouldn’t be considered apart of the live audio composite view.
Again! Not exactly because you still have to merge the 2 layers in order for it to be considered processed.
You’re right! The issue really is the workflow. The composite view is more or so a visual representation of **live ** overall audio spectrum of all layers that are not muted (keyword “NOT MUTED”). The composite view is not an actual layer itself, it’s just visual representation from the gui perspective.
Not sure if you’re just arguing for arguments sake, but nowhere have I said I want the composite view to include muted layers? Why would I want that anyway? I simply want the sum of the layers ‘I’ve’ selected to bounce to a new layer, just like any DAW would allow to bounce selected tracks to a new track.
The composite view is already processed through the internal mixer of SpectraLayers either as internal routing or more likely in memory so it’s primarily just a coding task like Merge.
Again, not sure what you’re arguing about here, it’s a basic mixing workflow in any DAW. The Composite View matches the audible mixed output visually, yes, the standard view doesn’t take into account inversion though so why I wouldn’t want the capability to bounce that view because it doesn’t represent the final sum of samples…
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