In a piano arrangement, I’m trying to show that the left hand should play a (pedal-) sustained octave in and then move to the treble clef. Dorico does not seem to allow me to create a line between the beginning of the note head on a tied note and a note above it. To achieve what I show in the image, I had to create a line between the second tied note and a random note above, then in the Engrave tab, move the line to where I wanted it. Is there a better way to do this?
Hi @Nick_Hefner, and welcome to the Forum.
Indeed with lines between tie chains notes and other voices, there can be issues. To obtain consistently what you need here, I suggest following workflow:
- create an F in lower staff (F Up-stem voice, and the long F octave in Down-stem voce 1)
- create the line between this new F and the C in upper staff
- hide notehead and stem of the quarter F, set it as End voice, to hide the rests
- set the Voice Column index for the F octave to 0
- you can then flip the stem of the first octave in Engrave mode
Dorico file example:
line between tie chain and other voice.dorico (531.0 KB)
Here a visual guide:
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Thanks Christian! This was a help.
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You are welcome, @Nick_Hefner.
If I may say so, this indication is totally unnecessary. Any pianist will know how to play this passage ; worse : they might even wonder what this strange line means…
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agreed completely.
if it were a question of complex voice-leading in a piano part I might say go for it.
but in this case, the upper staff is patently impossible to play with one hand, so it would be the default behaviour to use two hands there.
sometimes, it can simply be a question of wanting to include too much information.
here that line would really be a case of micro-managing.
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@Nick_Hefner, reading the comments, here would be another possibility to notate what you need, using a vertical line applied to the whole chord (and no need of extra voices); but as pianist myself, I agree that such an indication, as also the previous line, would be a too-kind one (= very kind from the composer, but not absolutely necessary) addition to the score:
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@Nick_Hefner I think that the original line would be incorrect usage and confusing. Such lines are used to show a voice moving from one staff to another, not hand distribution. So in this case the line would mean that the bass voice moves up into a higher register, which is not at all what is happening.
@Christian_R 's suggestion to use the standard left hand hook symbol is the “kind” one.
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