Create a New Music Symbol

Hi, I would like to ask about your help: I need to create a Common Time Signature with brackets on a left and right side to use it in some (not all) project. I could found how to edit a Common Time Symbol. It is a great feature in Dorico. But I cannot find a way to create a New Symbol on a base of the old one instead of “just” editing it. Is it generally possible? Thank you

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No, but you could take one you know you won’t use for that project (like cut c, for example), and edit it.

Thank you dankreider😊 I do have an example you created for me😊 I just wonder, it would be great if would be possible to save such edition as a new symbol. Somehow…in a future:)

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No, you won’t be able to define your own entries in the Music Symbols dialog, because those are the symbols that Dorico uses for things that it knows how to draw. It doesn’t make sense to add extra entries to that list because, by definition, Dorico would not know when or where to use those symbols. If you want to add a custom symbol to the score yourself, you need to use one of the other features provided in the program to do it, such as a playing technique.

Thank you Daniel for your answer. I understand your point of view. I am discussing at the moment this issue with one Sibelius user, who has interest to switch to Dorico. I think in some cases it could be still useful. Here are few examples. If somebody works on an old music project and wants to be able to work on modern one as well, he needs to create each time a new custom time signature. Of course it is possible to create a blank project, create such custom time signatures and save this project as a template. But I would prefer to create them once and to be able to use them straight from the metrum popover for example typing [C].



I think the real requirement is for a greater degree of freedom in how time signatures appear, including editorial brackets. These aren’t things we’re likely to be working on imminently, but they’re certainly not beyond Dorico’s scope.

Hi all. @dspreadbury is there any possibility to use two clefs together, such as G and G8ba just to show that the part can be sung by women and men either?

The best way is to choose a treble clef variation you don’t need (perhaps 15ma) and edit that symbol to include both clefs.

When you go to assign the clef from the right panel, its appearance in the panel doesn’t change to reflect your redefinition until you insert it in the score.

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You could replace something like the Indian Drum Clef (under music symbols search for clef) with a treble clef with a italic 8 underneath between parentheses.

and how to make retain this new symbol available everytime dorico starts?
edit: finally made it

Hi Daniel,
then it seems that a good solution would be that Dorico had something like a Clef Designer, in which you could design the symbol and instruct Dorico about its musical meaning. It could be very useful and should not be much difficult to implement, as we know of some other software which does precisely this.

I am new to Dorico. Coming from 35 yrs of using Finale. I want to create my own symbol for laissez vibrare. a short slur like curve both above and below – 2 curves the top one arches up, the bottom one arches down – so two short slurs. And it should be controllable in size depending on where I place it on the staff. In finale I did this easily with two slurs which I adjusted in the shape designer. I like to put this over rests when pedal is being held. It is also useful for percussion. I don’t like the short lv line that Dorico has. Is it possible to do this? I could import it from finale but then I wouldn’t be able to adjust its size.

Also, but unrelated, for entry I use a numeric keypad plus a midi keyboard. The dot to lengthen the quarter note or half, etc. to a dotted quarter or half does not work on the numeric keypad. This should be corrected. Thanks.

Not a complete answer to your question, but you can set the length of the L.V. ties under Library→Engraving Options→Ties

Jesper

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Yes but I need a stand alone image and these are always attached to specific notes. But thank you for this. It will help in some instances.

Are you looking for something like this?

image

(Or if that’s not it, can you upload a picture?)

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You can set this up yourself in Preferences > Key Commands > Dotted Notes. I kept the default, which is ; on a French keyboard, but I also added the numpad’s dot:

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that is exactly what I am looking for, but flexible in size

and thanks for the dot set up

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That is exactly what I am looking for but flexible in size

Here are the steps I used to get that. You can modify things like the note duration and placement to get a slightly different look.

  1. Enter an eighth note on the fourth line on the first beat of the bar and on the last eighth of the bar
  2. With both notes selected, enable Suppress Playback (Always) in the Properties panel
  3. Slur the two notes
  4. Select the first note again and add a second slur, which will appear slightly above the first one
  5. Hit F to flip the second slur to underneath the notes
  6. Select the bar and do Edit > Remove Rests
  7. Start Note Entry in the bar, and move to the beginning of the bar
  8. Change to a new voice (V if you’re already using a second voice in this staff, otherwise Shift+V to create a new voice)
  9. Type Shift+B for the bars popover
  10. Type rest and hit Enter to create a bar rest in the second voice
  11. Switch to Engrave mode
  12. Select the eighth notes
  13. In the Properties panel, enable the “Hide notehead” and “Hide stem” properties
  14. Select the bar rest
  15. Enable the “Rest pos” property and adjust it to position the rest vertically as desired

Animation

This is a bunch of steps, but once you’ve done one bar, you can copy/paste or Alt/Opt+click it to other places as needed.

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