Another person migrating from Finale to Dorico 6. I have one player playing a long, sustained multiphonic, and I want him to be able to see what the other instruments are playing for several measures. How can I create a cue on a separate staff from the multiphonic? I can’t find anything in the Help doc about this.
Welcome to the forum.
The easiest way would be right-click>staff>add staff above (the when you want it to disappear right-click>staff>remove staff).
On this extra staff you can add cues using the shift-U… popover.
Thanks very much for the suggestion, Janus.
Here are problems I encountered with this method:
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You have to manually cutaway all the unused empty measures/staves you added for the cues.
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In order to cutaway all the empty measures/staves, you have to disable multibar rests in that layout.
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It messes up the spacing for the non-cue staff as Dorico thinks you have to allot space for the empty staff you added.
There are probably ways around all this, but I’m just getting started in Dorico and I’m just not sure how to solve all this.
To recap: I just want to display 7 measures on a staff above the main layout staff so I can show what’s being played while a player sustains a multiphonic for 24 bars.
I don’t see any of these problems (are you over-complicating the process?).
Could you post a problematic file? Perhaps we can set you on the right track.
EDIT: Here’s what it can look like…
You don’t need to use the cutaway feature (which indeed doesn’t work with multibar rests and which keeps the space of the hidden staves everywhere). As @Janus was suggesting, use add staff above and remove staff after the seven bars.
Dorico forced me to add the blank staff above the sustained multiphonic at the beginning of the multiphonic. But I only want to add cues as shown (mm. 142-148). How do I hide those empty measures before and after the cue shown? Thanks so much for any help on this!
You can start the extra stave wherever you want. But you can also move the start.
Select the signpost and move it with Alt-Right Arrow (it will move by the current grid resolution)
In bar 149, select the rest and do right-click>staff>remove staff this will (erm?) remove the staff.
If you don’t want to show the bar rests under the cues, you can select them and do Edit>Remove Rests.
But don’t you have to be in Write mode in order to add an additional staff? I can select mm. 142-147 in Engrave mode, but not in Write mode (it selects the entire multiphonic (mm. 124-147). Is there some way to select only mm. 142-147 to add an additional staff?
You should be doing 95% of your work in write mode. To add a staff anywhere, just start note entry and move the caret to where you want it to start.
I thought I did that. But there doesn’t seem to be a way to enter a seven-measure cue staff above the main staff in any mode. I did this all the time in Finale, but I just don’t know how to do it in Dorico.
The reason this is happening is that Dorico treats a series of tied notes as one object. So when you right-click on m.142 and add a staff, Dorico starts the new staff at the beginning of the whole tie chain.
@Janus has told you how to move the signpost to where you want it, using the arrow keys in Write mode.
You can also select the signpost and do Ctrl/Cmd+X to cut it. Then double-click somewhere in bar 142 to enter Note Input, use the arrow keys to move the caret to the beginning of the bar, and press Ctrl/Cmd+V to paste the signpost at that location.
In the future, if you were doing this from scratch, you would double-click in bar 142, position the caret at the beginning of the bar, right click, and choose Staff > Add Staff Above. The extra step of going into Note Inpnut is necessary only because of the sequence of tied notes. If you wanted to start the new staff at bar 121, for example, you could just right click on the first note without being in Note Input mode.
Edit: If you’re having trouble with this, you can PM me your file (click on my picture and then Message) and I’ll fix it for you.
You guys are ridiculously patient… ![]()
Ok, I finally understand how to move the cue staff to where I want it to start (opt-drag signpost on a Mac). Now how do I delete/hide the cue staff from mm. 149 to the end (see attachment) without it messing up staff spacing on the page?
Right click in the cue staff in bar 149, choose Staff > Remove Staff.
Select the rest in the top staff of bar 149, right click and choose Staff > Remove staff.
[@asherber was quicker !]
I’m so glad I found this forum! You have been so helpful:
I thought I had a pretty good handle on Dorico after watching six or so videos and taking copious notes, but Dorico is deep (like Finale) and quite different in many respects.
And if you want to get rid of those bar rests in that extra staff, just select them and do Edit>Remove Rests.
Edit>Remove Rests didn’t work for me, so I went to go to Notations Options>Rests>Bar rests in cues>Omit bar rests. That worked. But why didn’t Edit>Remove Rests work?
Not sure. (I’ve used it before, but something subtle might have been different).
Try this. Select the first bar rest and set the Ends voice property (all bar rests will disappear except the first). Now do Edit>Remove rests (and the first should go).
This works for me.
Yes, that worked for me, too. (This is the first time I’ve ever messed with Starts/Ends Voice in the Properties panel.) I assume that the advantage of doing this (vs. Notation Options>Rests>Rests in additional voices>Bar rests in cues>Omit bar rests) is that you are not globally omitting rests in cues. Is that right?
Creating a cue on a separate staff in the part is solved:
But I just noticed that the separate staff also shows up (blank) in the full score:
I tried creating a cutaway of the separate staff, but it also hid the staff in the part. I also tried deleting the separate staff, but it also deleted it in the part.
How do I hide the separate staff in the full score (with normal staff/system spacing) but not in the part?






