Creating New Page Template Set

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Hi. I’ve been reading the Dorico Pro 4.1 Manual and watching some Dorico videos on this subject.
When trying to apply what I’m understanding I should do to accomplish my goal, I run into problems that I can’t so far, figure out.
So, here it is:
Trying to create a new page template set.
Get that each set ONLY has a First Page & a Default Page.
Understand the different elements that are in each.
Here’s what I created:

First Page Template created by me
First Page Template created by me2846×1752 314 KB

and here’s what I get, so far in Engrave mode.

First Page of Piano Album Set
First Page of Piano Album Set2846×1752 215 KB

Two questions posted in the last pdf.
Any ideas, suggestions?

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Hi @algae592009 – firstly as an aside, the latest published version of the Dorico 4 manual is 4.2; it was updated in the last few weeks. If you’ve downloaded a PDF, you might want to update your local copy from here.

To your questions – you might find this page from the First Steps guide helpful in working out what’s coming from where, even though it uses the older term “master page” for “page template” :

  1. Gap between dedication and subtitle: that’s because the title token you’re using is the flow title, rather than the project title, and by default flow titles are hidden above flow headings. This is a Layout Option – see here.

  2. Boxed “1. Flow 1”: that’s a flow heading, and I presume you’ve set the corresponding paragraph style to have a border.

For more info about page templates, these pages in particular might be helpful:

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Hi Lillie,
Thanks for the info. I’ve already downloaded the latest version of Dorico Manual, which is for 4.1 version (as per text in the manual).
After reading the suggested links, I’ve fixed the empty space between dedication and flow subtitle.
I’m still finding that when there’s no dedication, the flow title and subtitle aline differently.
Here’s the example:

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Any idea why?

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Can you attach your file or get rid of some music and attach?

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Not sure and I’m guessing here, but it may be that the font size is not getting set properly when the field is blank. Try entering a space in the dedication field rather than leaving it blank.

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Are you using the Flow Header with the First Page, or do you just want the Flow Title token as part of the First Page.

If not, it’s not enough to just delete the text from the Flow Header in Engrave Mode. You need to turn it off in Layout Options.

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How is your vertical justification set in your Title frame. If is is Centered or Bottom, the text may move when certain fields are blank.

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Here’s a screenshot from the latest published PDF – it’s possible that you’ve got an earlier version cached in your browser. (You should generally be able to trust me when it comes to “what’s the latest version of the manual”, as I’m the person responsible for writing and publishing it.)

2022_08_dorico_4.2_manual_version

The team is aware of this.

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Dear @Lillie_Harris thank you again, I was just about to start my own thread. My goal is to insert two pages before, the 1st using a custom page template and the 2nd being just blank. I managed to do it only in this manner:

  1. Insert 2 pages before page 1 (use page template: none)
  2. Choose the 1 added page page and inserting page template change
  3. Removing the page override

Am I doing this right? It feels like one step too much…

Thank you!

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Unless the custom page templates (which I assume Are Title Page type templates) contain music frames on them, one does not have to add blanks pages first; simply applying the title-page/blanks-page templates will move the music to the third page.