Cresc. (poco a poco)

Dorico newbie (6 months) here. I just became aware of a dynamics quirk. Intuitively, it would make sense that a “cresc. poco a poco” marking affects the playback gradually until the following dynamic. It doesn’t. You have to manually drag the end hairpin to the next dynamic. Otherwise, the playback will sound weird and create abrupt dynamic shifts in places where gradual change is indicated in the score. It might be a good idea to program a default duration until the next dynamic, while retaining the option to manually drag the hairpin if needed for some reason.

This is just a small suggestion, not a criticism. I love the program!

Hi @Zvonimir_Tot, and welcome to the Forum.

I cannot reproduce your issue.

The gradual dynamic will take effect for its defined duration.

Here two examples: ones with the cresc. as hairpin and one as text. Both make Dorico draw a crescendo line in the dynamics lane, without jumps.
You may need to deactivate and reactivate the poco a poco property, so that Dorico refreshes the line correctly:

Dorico file example:
cresc poco a poco.dorico (1.2 MB)

Can you post a Dorico project file that shows a different behaviour?

I think @Zvonimir_Tot 's point is that if you select a single note and put cresc. or add a hairpin there, the crescendo by default only extends to the next note. A human playing the piece would know to keep crescendoing until the next event.

As @Christian_R notes, gradual dynamics in Dorico have a defined duration, which you can set either by selecting a range of notes before entering the dynamic, or by moving the endpoints of the dynamic after entering.

I think there are various reasons why having Dorico default to a “human” understanding of gradual dynamics might not be desirable, but I agree that Dorico’s behavior here can take some getting used to.

I assume it’s for interface consistency, which I appreciate.

Thank you for specifying that, @asherber. :pray:

Thank you for your thoughtful and detailed response, Christian. I think we may be talking about the same thing: When poco a poco cresc. is assigned to a single note, it doesn’t automatically extend to the next dynamic marking. Now that I understand the issue, I don’t mind dragging the hairpin manually. It just didn’t occur to me initially, as it seems counterintuitive. Much appreciated.

Aaron, yes, that’s exactly what I meant! Now that I understand the issue (I think!), it’s not a big deal to drag the hairpins manually. I appreciate your comments.

That makes perfect sense. Thank you, Scott!

FWIW, asherber’s post included a way to avoid having to drag anything manually: select the notes to be included in the crescendo then, using the popover, you can type the beginning dynamic, the alteration, and the end dynamic all in one go. Much quicker and easier.

Yes! I read it, but (oops) didn’t comment specifically. Thank you, Vaughan!

Hello Zvonimir, I would also suggest you do it on the notation side, as suggested by Vaugham.
That is the best way to “communicate” with Dorico: selecting the area first, then applying the gradual dynamic.

Thank you, much appreciated!