Cubase 12 and Intel based CPU graphics, is it being reliable?

Just wanted to know if you are using Intel CPU built in / on-board graphics, and wondered what your expriences are. At this time this is all I have in my machine and wondered how it is working out for you. i9 12900 CPU in an ASUS mainboard (SCAN). It might help me when I plan to migrate over to C12. cheers

I have 3 Full HD screens connected to my built in GPU. No crashed, no issues.

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Have been using Intel integrated graphics since day one, have never had a problem.

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No issues here. I got rid of my nvidia card when I built my new machine and went with Intel onboard graphics.

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Yes no problem here either. I moved my nvidia to another pc and use the onboard intel graphics on my studio pc

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Apreciate the replies and that bodes well. Also plan to do a ASUS recommended BIOS update on mainboard before install etc. (And Intel management engine update) Still at planning stage had a i9 12900 machine sitting for a year just receiving Win 11 updates every 3 months, sure… not exactly getting value out of it, but reliability is more important than absolute speed. After comparing it seems I will only going to be getting an +80pct more single core speed boost over existing CPU (i7 7700 3.6GHz) for mastering, due to the predominant serial nature of the processing.

I like a nice long overlap so the machine proves itself and I have one close to ready to go if the worst happens and the existing one has a serious fault.

Existing machine doing very well (6/7 years old), clawed back some CPU cycles due to use CPU optimizations on few plug ins. Runs flawless on 9.0.2 astill so just getting max return on its cost.

Different way of working really, reliability has priority over speed so no need to sit on the edge of tech releases.

Thanks for the responses, very helpful.

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Not sure how it affects Windows users, but if you don’t use scaling they should be great.

My Mac mini uses the 630 GPU, but I have a 28" 4K display that makes you want to gouge your eyes out at 4K resolution. I use mine scaled to 2K, and didn’t notice the performance hit until I bought an actual eGPU and threw a Radeon in it. The CPU meter in Logic Pro, Ableton Live, and Cubase dropped by like 15-20% across the board after that. There was always a load on the meter when opening a brand new project because of it. Ableton’s actually was a little higher than the other two, but I think they’ve got their own ‘graphics issues’ as it is.

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It’s also worth mentioning that some plugin developers use extremely heavy graphics (which I personally try to avoid), so some of these plugin’s realtime displays might struggle with integrated graphics. Dropping a few grand on the latest cards won’t make them sound any better though.

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This post was inspired by a crash I had using on board graphics, solved with a cheap £39 ATI Radeon (now AMD) card at the time. I have an antiquated hobby music making PC and it started to have “black screen” crashes seemingly at random. If I recall it left these flickering residual coloured pixels on the screen, just a few but enough to just about spot and make me start wondering if it was somehow graphics related.

Bought a card popped it in never had the crash ever since.

I expect the days of £39 PCIe (I think that was the slot anyway) video cards are over now though.

edit : Seems you can find a card for £50/£60 these days, has a potentially noisy fan. At the time the appoach was to get something basic… the cheapest ATI card without a fan was usually your best bet.

As you type of heavy graphics I was always quite astonished to see some VSTi taking 140 - 200MB memory per instance. You expect samplers/libraries to take that kind of memory but I was not expecting VSTi synths to. I went into this when my old 32 bit system for music making started totally weird behaviours on saving projects. It turned out the projects were getting to close to 32bit mem limits. I found there were a few synths gobbling up RAM for breakfast. D16 Lu-SH101 was one of them compared to the old NI Massive at 10MB per instance.

I am warming to slowly configuring this new machine with Cubase 12 and probably await till Black Friday to see if any softwate I rely on needs updating and save a bit of cash. This is the beauty of not being in a rush, no such excitement for new PC’s exists these days (you feel the performances increase more for mixing/production when the CPU gobblers are spread across multiple cores)

For new PC’s been there done it and got the T-Shirt, there is so much to look into each time round, what hardware/software works/ having best part of 50 software company logins and associated installer apps etc. Like running a gauntlet each time.

You can pick up a 1060 6gb for £90-£100
At the moment though.

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I’m still running a fully optimized, over locked and super stable i7 8700k, running 4.7GHz on all cores, and I’m running Nuendo 12 on two monitors, a 27” 25601440 and a small 17” crt flatscreen (I believe only 800600) I was ready to give to charity but no one cared to pickup. On integrated graphics, no trouble at all, the small monitor working like an oversized TC Clarity, displaying supervision and control room settings in one workspace, and Project Window in another, when I’m at the recording booth, for remote control when I’m recording away from PC monitor and keyboard. All well.

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I’ve build my system, and it has served me well for some years now, and more to come. A good place to start your search on what hardware works, or is more adequate, is a specialist DAW pc builder site, like ScanProaudio. You can stroll through their options, knowing those are tried and tested solutions, and slowly making your decisions. Another site, PCPartpicker, is a very good source of info regarding compatibility of components, even in size (does this cooler fit inside my case?, for instance, or is my ram too tall for this cooler/card). My aim was to build a powerful (at the time), stable and silent system, and, with some help from tech friends who did most of the delicate screwdriving, I did it. Being a musician, composer and producer, it was kind of an epiphany to realize how nerdy I would get, tuning everything in bios, etc, I looked like a TV series geek smiling while steadily achieving performance bliss!!! Nerd alert… :rofl:

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Sure the new machine is made by SCAN

One thing Scan mentioned to me was about running onboard graphics AND a graphics card with no issues , this was only a month ago , it seems they prefer to go for this option most of the time apparently