have you seen the 30 day system that BFD3 has implemented ?
I would say take a look at the BFD3 forum…but really I wouldn’t …it’s not pretty.
it’s failed/fallen over so many times that you have no idea if it will work when you launch it
oh - they are also running on 99.999% uptime servers…they never lose power (or rarely)
Plus the fact that the value of everything purchased from Steinberg over the years immediately becomes valuless, the DAW’s, instruments and libraries will no longer have any sale value to transfer, why should anyone want to buy no longer needed licences if they can just rent when the fancy games them? More upward movement of wealth to the multinational corporations!
We’re using service providers that operate at scale already. I’m confident that it will work.
I’m not in a position to comment about why other people’s systems have had issues.
I’m happy to be held to account for delivering what we promise, and 100% focussed on that job (when not answering forum posts).
@Matthias_Quellmann Dear Matthias, I would be very grateful for an answere.
The pure air-gapped activation is the thing that might not be available on day 1.
Again, we’re trying to be transparent and honest that there may be gaps in functionality that we will fill as quickly as we can.
What happens in the scenario that someone has a 1-year offline license checked out to that one computer, but then something like a crash happens to that computer and the “checked out” license is lost?
Can then a request for a renewed 1-year checkout license be made from that computer and handled automatically (just like a renewal can be made after the 1 year expiration)?
Yes, in the event that you suffer some kind of catastrophic system failure, it will of course be possible to recover that activation so that you can reactivate on another system, or on the same system after you have rebuilt it. The exact process for that is not set in stone yet: you may be able to do it yourself via the web site, you may need to contact support. But it will definitely be possible.
Honestly, tying license management convenience to a paid upgrade is a really shytty thing to do - considering how ancient this inconvenience is, and how much people had been begging to rectify it.
With the way they’re rolling this out, it will be a year - or more - before you will be free of the dongle. Lots of Steinberg Software requires the Dongle. Those of us who invested in multiple titles gain literally nothing from this - unless we basically phase out the software that is still dongle-encumbered for alternatives (i.e. Replacing with Native Instruments or UVI Instruments/Libraries and just eating the loss to get the benefit of convenience immediately).
That language is common and has existed since forever.
You can’t use the software simultaneously on two PCs. That means you are not licensed to use it on your desktop and Laptop at the same time.
The licenses are so that you can work on one or the other computer, as needed. Not to use them both at the same time.
It doesn’t matter who’s using the second computer. Even if it’s you. You aren’t licensed to do it.
This is common licensing. Many - if not the majority of - software products have this language in the license agreement. It’s there to close an obvious loophole.
Basically:
ONLY YOU are allow to use the software on ONLY ONE computer any given time.
How to ask a very legit question in a very rude way
@Trensharo please see this previous post:
I’m not referring to content sets, but products like WaveLab, Absolute 5, SpectraLayers, etc.
Unless I cease using WaveLab and anything in Absolute 5, upgrading to Cubase 12 for a new licensing scheme isn’t really going to do much for me. I can’t really use these things without dongle swapping when I move to my Laptop/Travel, anyways… so I mind as well just stay on the current versions for the forseeable future, unless they add something so great that it becomes a no-brainer.
But that’s going to be a lot of money over the long term to pay for something that really should have been done a decade ago; which could be invested elsewhere.
EDIT:
Answer in the FAQ:
Steinberg Licensing will be used for new products and updates to existing products as they each arrive at their next major version, but until each product has been updated to use the new Steinberg Licensing system, existing licenses will continue to use the eLicenser system during the transitional period. We expect to transition all actively-maintained products to the new Steinberg Licensing system within the next two years.
I’m not fully convinced by the new licensing yet and will at least wait until the one year option is available.
I have a Cubase Pro 10.5 activation code which I haven’t used yet because of the work restrictions during the pandemic. But I’m planing to buy a new pc next month and will finally update my dongle.
Will my 10.5 activation become a 12, an 11, or a 10.5 version? (it’s 10 at the moment)
I’m hoping for a new start next year and I would love to work with a Cubase 11 Version until my concerns about the licensing are hopefully gone.
Welcome to the forum, Cubasine. You current Cubase Pro 10.5 activation code will become a Cubase Pro 12 activation code by way of the grace period update process. This will allow you to run Cubase Pro 11 and any earlier version of Cubase Pro on any computer to which you connect your USB-eLicenser. You will also be able to run Cubase Pro 12, using the new Steinberg Licensing system (i.e. without requiring the USB-eLicenser).
I really don’t understand why SB chose not to do what so many other companies have done: allow us to store licenses either locally (on the system drive) or on some type of removable media (like a flash drive).
This is commonplace in the industry and works great. Why do something different and inferior (and advertise it as an exciting development)?
The decision to do this is truly astonishing. Does SB really think that users would want extra burden with no benefit whatsoever? I can’t help but think the goal here was to anger users. If so, then congratulations, you’ve succeeded brilliantly.
Thank you for your answer!
So when I finally update to Cubase Pro 12 with the new licensing System, am I still able to use my old dongle to run Cubase Pro 11 on my pc as well as on my laptop? Just in case I have trouble “reactivating” my new CB 12 at that moment.
I’m asking because Matthias wrote in an earlier post that someone who wanted to upgrade from Artist 11 to Pro 12 is not able to run Pro 11 with the dongle. (it’s in the " Steinberg Licensing & USB eLicenser" thread #36)
Maybe it’s just a different case but it confused me.
after you buy CB 12 your CB11 licence remains on the dongle so you can use it exactly the same as you do now
I share your dislike/distrust of anything that might look like a subscription scheme. I am in my mid-60s now. I feel like I have a rather open mind for inter-generational things. I don’t really hate all the music created since 1990, although I don’t really like very much of it. It is mostly just too formulaic and simple-minded to my ears, but I’m OK if others want to listen to it. I actually like some Imagine Dragons, Matchbox-20, and Coldplay.
Being mostly an “old fart” about musical preferences doesn’t really make me feel old. What makes me feel old are all these damned subscriptions. Millennials seem to be happy to have subscriptions for everything from toothbrushes to underwear. I’m sorry, I’m not going to sign up for monthly underwear. This “great subscription divide” makes me feel really old because I am never going to understand the mind of the Millennial in this regard, even if somebody offers me a subscription to Depends or Geritol.
Having said all that, I don’t see an evil intent here. First, we need to remember with software, we aren’t “buying” anything other than a license to use it. We have no ownership rights. As long as Steinberg continues to offer a perpetual right to use any given release we pay for, and they maintain the means for the license manager to keep that all working, I don’t think there is a problem. Of course, those are big “ifs”.
Yes, I know.
But dspreadbury said, if I activate my Pro 10.5 version right now I will get a Pro 12 activation code which is not a real Pro 11 licence, although I can run Pro 11 with it.
I just want to know if the Pro 12 activation remains on the dongle after I switched to the new licensing system, so I can still use Pro11 with it or if I will fall back to 10.5 to which I actually updated to.
I can’t believe how downbeat,negative and scepticle people are. I thought people would rejoice.