Cubase 13 MIDI 1.0 to MIDI 2.0 issues

Hi
After installing C13 I’ve noticed that my surface controller is now behaving differently.
Whereas before (Cubase V12.0.70) when turning a dial on my controller, I had a similar sized turn on screen. Now I have to turn the dial several times to achieve the same level of input.
To clarify:
Before C13: Turn physical dial a half turn, resulted in the mapped dial in Cubase turning a half turn.
Current C13: Turn physical dial a half turn, results in a vary small amount of onscreen dial turn.
I’m assuming this is because of the new implementation of MIDI 2.0
Is there any way I can have my MIDI 1.0 surface Controller behave in the same way that it did before?
I’ve looked at the MIDI settings in preferences, and also to see if there are any new features in the MIDI Remote control surface editor and MIDI Mappings assistant, but can’t see any way to rectify the issue.

Please can anyone advise?

Hi,

Could you be more specific, please?

What do you control? How is it integrated in Cubase (MIDI Remote, Quick Control, MIDI CC)?

If this is the MIDI Remote, how is it setup in the script? If it’s Quick Control, which parameter do you control?

Can you use the MIDI Monitor to double-check the values?

Which hardware is it? Are you on Mac or Windows?

Hi Martin
I’ll try to give as much info as possible

windows 11
MIDI Remote is the interface
MIDI Remote input Control Change ( dial functions are set to ‘Standard’ & ’ Relative twos compliment’)

The issue I have described is happening on all of the Push encoders
The issue happens regardless of whether it is mapped directly to a MIDI Remote parameter, or if the " pick for MIDI remote mapping" option is chosen.

MIDI Monitor input is showing 124 and 4 respectively for up and down values.
Before C13 these values would mean the onscreen dial would match the physical turn of the encoder.
There is an option with the controller ( Qube Audio Mobi One) to change the output of the encoder to 127 and 1 respectively, but this makes the onscreen dial turn even slower (as it should).

Is there anything else you would like to know?

Hi,

Thank you for the detauls. So the knobs are sending the Increment/Decrement values in fact.

Can you test, if Cubase receives the same MIDI data?

How is your Preferenes > Editing > MIDI > High Resolution Display Range sttings, please?

Did you write the script by yourself, or is it any widly used script from the forum, please?

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Hi Martin,
I have attached a screen grab of the Preferences settings.
I have tried to play with the values you have described, but could not see any obvious change in the dial’s behaviour.

The MIDI Remote file is the standard file supplied by the manufacturer,
and as I mentioned earlier, works perfectly in C12 . 0. 70

I can confirm that the controller output and the Cubase input are identical.

Kind Regards

I’ve also attached a screen grab taken from the main “Cubase 13 out now!”
Where it seems “cubace” has also found the same issue ( although they seem to like it)

Hi @Zeuss , thank you for the details. These “High Resolution …” preferences don’t affect the processing of MIDI, they are just display options for editing. I doubt that it is related to the MIDI2 changes, but you never know. We’ll investigate the issue. Thank you!

Thank you Guys for your help.
Fingers crossed you find a solution.

Thank you. It’s issue ID: CAN-50319 (for our internal reference).

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For me, my controller (Artuira Beat Step) no longer works so quickly when I turn it. is very slow. Now you have to make 20 revolutions so that the VST controller turns around once.
in cubase 12 it is fast, in cubase 13 it is slow.
I’ve tried different settings over the last few days but none of them work well.
I integrated the controller via the remote interface. The controller sends relative 2 and relative binary offset is set in Cubase. In Cubase 12 this was the best setting.
If I integrate the comtroller via the generic controller, the pots turn as they should, but if I integrate the controller via the remote interface then the pots turn very, very slowly…mmmmmm
That wasn’t the case in Cubase 12!

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Note that there is a workaround for now, by setting the BeatStep Pro knobs to absolute mode. However, I wouldn’t change anything at the moment, and prefer to wait for a fix while I still have CB12 active.

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Thank you guys, for fixing the issue in the first maintenance update.
Way to go!!!

Cheers