Cubase 14 - Mixer History / Undo Bug with disabled plugins

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Ran into a quite annoying bug today in C14 (14.0.5):

Adding plugins to a channel with disabled plugins (not bypassed, but Alt-Click-Power-Disabled) - and undo’ing this via the mixer history results in disabled plugins being reactivated. Going forward in the undo history does not restore the correct channel state!

Repro:

  • Create an empty project
  • Add an audio track
  • Add 2 plugins - and disable (again, disable - not bypass!) the last one.
  • Add another plugin to the channel.
  • Undo adding the last plugin via the mixconsole history
  • Previously disabled plugin is now active again.

I hope the other aspects of mixer-undo-history works as intended, but i would appreciate the developers giving this pretty important aspect of the DAW a good “inspection”.

Best,
Rune / FishCorp, Copenhagen

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Same here.

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this happens for me in C13 as well, maybe even 12.
Undo simply enables all the plugins on the track.
I usually only undo when I’ve accidentally removed a plugin, or just want the one I removed back, so for me it’s the reverse situation - where you add a plugin then undo it, I remove a plugin then undo it.

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Happens to me as well in both C13 and C14 (Mac Silicon, latest Ventura). :slight_smile:

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Happening in 13 and 12 and probably even in 11.

Anyhow the history seems to have new interesting features in C14 but it’s very buggy actually for me

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Hmm! Well - i guess it’s somewhat positive, that things are “business as usual” - but i’m certainly not loving the idea of undo being hit-or-miss …

@Martin.Jirsak … would you care to forward this to the dev team?

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Mixer history very buggy in Nuendo 13 as well.
Sometimes not working at all, have to reload song.
Sometimes certain parameter changes not covered.
No clear pattern in this misbehaviour.

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It would be great if you could record clear examples of the issue.

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That would be useful. Based on the OP’s repro, I get the expected results on both N13 and C14 Pro.

In my case:

New project with one track
Insert two plugins on the track
Deactivate the first plugin
Deactivate the second plugin
Add a third plugin

Undo → removes the third plugin
Undo again → reactivates the second plugin
Undo again → reactivates the first plugin

If I start redoing, the steps play out in reverse order, as expected

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KT66 - are you sure that you are deactivating the plugins - and not just bypassing them? On windows, deactivating requires an Alt-Click on the plugin power-button.

The bug is still present here in C14.0.10 - and interestingly enough powering off a plugin does not appear in mixer-history, which might be a clue on how to squash the bug. Bypassing, however, is listed in the history and works as expected (as far as i can tell) …

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I’m well aware of what Deactivate means.
I have a video of this procedure in both Nuendo 13 and Cubase 14, but unfortunately the clips are too large to post here.

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Maybe you could upload as an unlisted youtube link? I’m really curious whats going on here, since i hit the bug every single time - and other posters confirmed it :thinking:

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I’ve got it to fail now.
Last night I tried the test on a project where I had already inserted and deleted plugins a number of times (I was fooling around with something else), and it worked OK.
This afternoon I tried again on a freshly opened template and I can consistently get the bahaviour you describe. It gets fuzzier after deleting and re-inserting plugins in that I can eventually get it to work sometimes, but there’s clearly a problem. The ‘deactivate’ portion of the activites disappears from history and can’t be recovered.

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