Cubase 14. Score editor is empty when opening an exisiting file

Just installed Cubase 14 for its score editor but when opening an existing file it is empty save the chords. and time signatures. No notes. Do I have to change a setting?

take a look at the visibility panel in the left. You can explicitly enable tracks/parts to show there, or make sure you have a part selected in the project window.

Thanks for your reply. There is only one track and that track is visible since it displays the chords and even rests but no notes.

I don’t know how to add a screen print but it is weird.

If you could post a cut down version of the project file itself, that would help determining what is going on.

how can I post a version of the file?

Even weirder: I cut out the first couple of bars and then the score editor opened correctly but after cutting out some 20 bars the notes disappear again.

Hello.
Is anybody know why Steinberg just KILLED all of score editing in cubase 14?
It’s terrible and not usable now.
Dorico is terrible score editor too. Like Sibelius and Finale.

Hi musmaster, and welcome to the forum.

We haven’t killed score editing, quite the opposite in fact. I invite you to read Daniel’s blog post for some background information.

I’d be curious to learn more about which aspects you find difficult to use. If you could provide just a little more detail, I’d be more than happy to engage in a productive conversation.

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It would really be good to see this project. If you could put it onto a file service like dropbox or WeTransfer, that should work. If you’d rather not share it in public, please send me a private message via this forum (click on my name in the header of this post, “Message” button).

Thanks Stefan for the quick reply,

Your workaround was the solution, so now I can see the notes. There is one thing that puzzles me though, that is how to turn off the chords in the score. I checked all the settings and I can choose where to put them but not how to not show them. Can this be found in the score settings?

Thanks for your help.

Kind regards,

Rudie

Chord symbols can be controlled with Layout Options and Instrument Settings.
In Layout Options/Chord Symbols, you can toggle a setting to show Chord Symbols on the top of the staves. If the other “above certain instruments” settings is enabled, then go to Instrument Settings/Chord Symbols, and toggle the checkbox for each instrument individually that should show the chords. For Dorico users, that instrument setting is akin the the equivalent player option in Setup Mode.

Regarding the files that didn’t show notes, for all users following along at home: I had a look at Rudie’s file. It contains a sophisticated project from the previous Score Editor which contains several Display Quantize events which are converted incorrectly. The current workaround involves deleting those in the list editor, or copying the midi notes into a new part that doesn’t contain the Display Quantize items.

Sorry to bother you again Stefan, I found the toggle but the chord symbols don’t disappear. They are in black and when clicked on it, the chord is played.
I was not sure if this is because of the file but I wanted to get rid of it so finally I transferred only the notes to a new file and now all the chord symbols are gone. It is a hassle but at least it solves the problem. Perhaps you can replicate it with the file I sent you?

The good thing is that now the score editor can do its work properly and it looks very good.

@Rudie_Vissenberg - I’ve now fixed the bug that meant the notes didn’t display correctly in this case. The new Display Quantize algorithm works quite differently to the old one. The old algorithm was about snapping note positions to the DQ grid, but the new one works by finding sets of tuplets in a region. So cases where you have multiple DQ events quite close together (eg in bar 19, 25 of your project), this doesn’t work very well.

The new quantize algorithm generally detects tuplets pretty well, so as well as deleting the Display Quantize events, try setting Score > Instrument Settings back to the default ‘Auto’ mode:

If there are parts of the score which don’t show the tuplets you want then apply a few DQ events to correct it. There’s also a DQ ‘reset’ event that sets things back to the default DQ for the instrument.

Make sure you change the Layout Option from “Above Top Staff of System” to “Above Specific Instruments”, and then ALSO toggle the “Show Chord Symbol” off in the Instrument Setting.
For me, that then shows like

The little green box at the top indicates the Chord Symbol. You can still select it that way, but it won’t print or export in pdf.

Thank you for replay.
If it’s sow great please tell how to make simple things - convert note to GRACE?
Or, how do i can make TRACK or STAFF name OVER the staff?

Next, how can I make numbers of bar MANUALY in each staff? Not automatic.
And so on…
Score editor in Cubase was BEST in market. Cubase was combine great features for audio like a chord detector, tempo recognise and it was very usefull in score editor.
Now it’s all doesn’t work.

The grace note button will work more reliably in the next patch release.

If you create a new Layout with Layout Type “Part”, the name of the layout will print at the top left. Is that what you’re after?

That’s not possible at the moment. However we are looking at adding a few of the bar number layout options that can also be seen in Dorico in a future update.

sorry for the OT, I think so too.

But I have to say this here and hope that we and the guys from Steinberg can make the C14 score editor great again.
:slightly_smiling_face:

best regards

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Me too

Me too

Me too


Thank you for answer.
But you absoluteli wrong or you never made REAL score in Cubase.
All text or other symbols was moover MANUALY. Now it’s impossible.
I used Cubase for score edit from 2001. And I know what I talkin about.
Not Sibelius, not Finale, not other score editors never did what Cubase did.

It’s terrible 14 upgade.

I’m happy to engage in a kind and polite conversation. Please refrain from personal attacks.

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