hey guys, anyone managed to get the Pattern editor to follow the chords?
I thought I’d be able to design a bass pattern (some typical EDM style ones which are used often, like off-beat, rolling bass), drag chords onto it and it would apply the pattern based on the chords by following the root note (option is there), how could I achieve this?
Example of rolling bass of the pattern I want to follow the chords root note which you can try out:
I then click on the Chord Input and drag the chords MIDI event (8 bars max/128 steps) which is from the same project, attached are the chords.
When I do that, the Pattern is extended to 8 bars with the 4 chords shown along the top bar (last one cuts out as I need to scroll right), I select “Root Note” under the Chord input, it’s the same pattern as above, no change but repeated, on the same notes as previously so straight off, it doesn’t respect the chords.
Now if I click on the Randomize icon (above the steps/note labels near the top), it changes the pattern but this time, it seems to respect the chord root notes at least.
I do not see an option to lock the pattern, then ask it to follow the chords, unless I am missing something? If this is by design? Someone from Steinberg please confirm this?
The chord input is used together with the randomizer features. It doesn’t not work like the ‘chord track’ and alter exisiting notes like follow chord track does.
I don’t think I am misunderstanding this feature, nothing on the manual on the contrary that I could see!
You can create your own patterns and save them, drag your chords, the pattern should be able to follow the chords, to me at least, that’s a logical step. It respects the chords when you random generate a new pattern, why can’t it respect the pattern created by the user?
This should be an easy fix with the next service update hopefully (lock pattern icon or similar), otherwise it’s a bit like not being able to save patterns for the drums in v14 (made me very angry), now you can in v15, perhaps Steinberg will enable this in v16!
And although I didn’t have enough time to thoroughly test that melodic pattern feature myself, I also wish that there was a working user presets (plus “chord variant / sequence lock”, etc.) feature added - more or less in the way you describe it.
Perhaps it can also help to add the feature request tag to your initial post, or even start a support ticket to make the devs aware.
I am trying to find out if it’s a bug or designed like that!
Try it out when you get the chance please, I am on Windows 10. It’d be good to know if this is happening to all, then we can confirm that it doesn’t work. Maybe someone from Steinberg (or @Martin.Jirsak) can confirm that this is by design or maybe it’s a (known) bug, then we can escalate accordingly.
I have to admit, I’m not the Patter Editor expert at all.
You can create a Pattern 1. Then you can enable the Chord Input and drag and drop Chord 1. Then you can duplicate the pattern. Enable the Chord Input and drag and drop Chord 2.
nope, doesn’t work one chord at the time (which is the long way of doing it but tried it), it doesn’t respect the user’s pattern design, it respects the chord/s (like root note) when you generate a new pattern.
Just need to know if this is by design or a bug, so that I can escalate it. Hopefully someone from Steinberg dev team can confirm this?
Perhaps it’s just my opinion, but I don’t think the usage you describe was a part of the design of the Pattern Editor whatsoever. Otherwise I think it would give you an option of voices to follow (root, 5th, etc.), and the piano roll on the side would be irrelevant. In its current form, the UI for the Pattern Editor doesn’t serve the kind of intervallic based pattern following you’re suggesting, so I firmly believe it wasn’t part of the calculus when they came up with it.
That said, I could certainly see a number of users using and enjoying that sort of feature, so I would strongly recommend that you add the feature request tag to this thread to flag to the devs appropriately.
Well, thanks for the reply, I wasn’t sure hence why I asked here.
I initially thought it’s a bug, it allows for chord imports, allows you to set it to follow the root note etc, but doesn’t do it with your own designed patterns, only new patterns you generate.
It would be good for them to confirm it, instead of us guessing. I labelled it as an issue for now. I suspect it’s going to end up being a feature request!
I’m surprised that such a basic functionality of a step sequencer is missing. Now, it’s necessary to switch to polyphonic mode and extend notes. Tie option is much faster to work with. For me it’s a huge UX omission.
I don’t really care about polyphonic step sequencer because for me, the standard midi editor is still better and faster for this. For me, step sequencer’s best place is for mono instruments and here legato/slide/glide options are mandatory for the best UX.
Sequencers in plugins like Phoscyon or Omnisphere, to name a few, are much, much better. For now I don’t feel like the step sequencer is giving me that much advantages over the midi editor.
essentially, it is an arp kind of a plugin, but it would be good if it can follow the chords based on a pattern a user designs, as I mentioned already, you can design your patterns and save them, you can import chords, but doesn’t follow imported chords based on your own patterns, only newly random/auto generated patterns.
