So you play everything absolutely perfect 100% of the time with no midi editing , timing adjustments , ‘comping’?
Ohhhhh , if you see it like that ,then …
Yes it is , if you do any form of editing then you are cheating , which apparently the chord track is , which is totally disgraceful and should be removed from Cubase and every other Daw and made illegal right this minute 
When I write something and then quantize it, that ‘something’ is a composition that I know exactly what it is. The quantization doesn’t create the music. Quantization is a production/editing tool.
Well, yes I do feel like that.
Music and production are two different things.
No it doesn’t , but you are still editing because of your lack of skill, timing on that performance (please don’t take it to heart it’s not intended as an insult ) which really is no different then someone opening up a chord assistant and asking for a suggestion between X and Z , you are quantizing to fit , using a machine , same with asking for a suggestion on a chord because something doesn’t sound quite right and you want to find that missing part.
This is where the chord assistant is very useful , being able to have suggestions between two other chords , if anything springs creativity i can’t understand the problem , the problem is when you are not in control of what’s being made by putting all the pieces together and that is where Ai could put al ot of musicians out of work
I am arguing that one needs to know music. Period.
Using a computer to write your music is not the same as editing, which is what quantization is.
You also are confusing composing with performing.
What you are referring to, are tools to help with performance, not composition.
I am not a performer to the level that I can record something with digital precision.
That doesn’t mean that I haven’t got a damn clue about what the hell I am composing.
Seriously now. It’s a ridiculous argument.
You are referring to “cheating” in production, and I am referring to disgraceful practices when it comes down to music composition, and the wishful thinking of composing film scores/symphonies/perfect songs with a click of a button.
Using someone else’s knowledge to write music (which is what pre-orchestrated music and MIDI chord packs really are), is not music.
Learn music. Period.
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So why are you using a computer ? Quantization , it’s your Aid , it’s your assistant . So it’s ok for you being a composer to use computer generated timings but it’s not ok for someone that has perfect timing but no clue about the next chord and to use an assistant ?
Right, where are all the drummers in the house , do you play chords on your drums , do you need assistance from anyone else while composing your creative thoughts in your head because you haven’t got the ability to work out chords ? if so …you no nothing about music
im sorry but this is how you come across to me , that every user has to be on the same par as you , which would be a pretty boring world (no insult intended )
Good God…Drummers…that’s your argument…I have come across drummers that are far better than me musically.
Editing is not composition.
Quantizing is not composition.
Copying and pasting is not composition.
Using MIDI packs because you haven’t got a clue about music, is not composition.
Using an AI to create music for you is not composition.
Composition is composition.
And, no, I didn’t say that at all.
My statement is simple. Learn music.
Ummm, it may be simple to you but it’s more complex than you think , ive been a mono synth player for nearly 40 years , i very rarely play chords , i use the tonal characteristics of the sound to fill the gaps , does this mean i shouldn’t be using Cubase because im not classically trained ?
Yes it is ,what would you say if the the late great John Bonham had to use a Chord assistant to wright is songs ?
Of course not.
But learning music is not only limited by the description of becoming a classically trained musician.
It’s of course 100% fine if one’s knowledge doesn’t reach analyzing Stravinsky’s works. Good God, of course not. But to whatever one needs to write, one should be in possession of the knowledge of said musical style.
I can’t tell you what to do, or not to do. This is a personal issue to you, and I am responding to this post, as I personally feel about this. Anyway…peace…
@somecomposer, @Highly-Controversial, I think you guys are not on the same wavelength. Composer sees it from a composing viewpoint. You have a blank project, you have to devise music to go into it. Filter sees it from “a musician’s” viewpoint. Let’s say I’m a woodwind player, and I want sort of a backing track to lay my glorious playing onto, so that I can show off. But I’m not a composer. How can I get hold of a backing track? By using tools that allow me to do just that. (Or just search for the whole thing in an mp3 and be done with it)
Does this diminish my musicality?
Should the viola at the first desk (last desks know) be fired if they don’t know in which positions you have a B natural on the trombone? I guess not.
That I would love to see. Knowing about John Bohnam, he would probably smash the computer to pieces…
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Hey man, I work with a lot of musicians. trust me, they can write orchestral pieces if they wanted to.
Yes, 
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Well, ok, but nobody loves violas anyway. Should the timpanist know if it’s the flautist’s in-line instrument with an E-mechanism that allows them a softer high E or practice? 
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You made my day
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Exactly , everything is down to a personal preference and if Steinberg hadn’t created such an awesome in depth tool to cater for everyone we would be having this conversation
Peace and love back
Well , sort of , my point is , no matter what you are doing, the computer is your aid so to dismiss something as idiotic is alittle OTT , Cubase is a huge tool catering for all creative people no matter what your cree or style . I personally think some old bloke standing in front of 140 musicians waving a stick is very idiotic and over rated but , that is my personal opinion ( but i would never of called it idiotic in a public forum as that’s a total insult to all concerned ).
What got me into Cubase in the first place (1991) was being able to over lay 16 programmed synths , press one key and let the sound evolve , some may consider this not to be music , some may say i’m not even a musician BUT , Cubase gave me (in the early days) the ability to add a 5 second sysex message before the track began to setup all my outboards , so that was a starting point , what if someone young , not knowing a not lot about music wants to start ? The Assistances are there to do so , it’s another tool , not meant to be for all levels but it’s still there and useful , anything that gets people creating i consider useful
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I know.
The beauty of it all is: We can choose to use the tools or not. Cubase is the epicenter where all kinds of music meet. From a symphony composed in paper, to “good luck notating that” live performances of any traditional genre, to anything actually. There are tools to accommodate everyone, and tools are also designed in a such a way to allow people that don’t have the theoretical background to get some result. For example, I’m not into synths. They fascinate me, yes, but if I had to start from a simple oscillator, I wouldn’t be able to go any further than that. But. VSTi synths allow me to load presets, to see, try to understand 1% of them, and call it a day. But, I am left with a synth playing on the track at the end of that day. Next day, if I’m lucky, maybe I’ll learn another 1%. And so on. Maybe one day I’ll get it, maybe I won’t.
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We all have our own tastes , nothing wrong with that , as i mentioned earlier ,it would be a boring world if we all had the same styles and fashion and culture , Diversity .A blend of flavours to fill the full spectrum with satisfying frequencies is nearly impossible to achieve across the whole musical world for everyone , we all need different things to set off the serotonin and dopamine , it doesn’t mean we can’t appreciate the work involved for the more complex constructions.
I have only just started delving into Vsti’s in the last year ,due to loosing an eye to Cancer diving behind racks now and trying to find which cable goes where and programming small screens in dim lights has become bit of a task so my workaround is not to be disheartened but see if i can create with the ITB tools what i could with the outboards and at the moments the answer seems to be a surprising yes .Before , i was pretty anti-Vsti in MYsetup . without these tools i would certainly be struggling .
Tools are tools , you either have use for them or you don’t … Autocad , i have never met a person that uses every feature in Autocad , but they are there , if they wasn’t im sure someone would request them
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i see some benefits,
for example detect all breath in a vocal and lower its gain or cut it and move to new track,.
even gain of too dynamic signal like you would with your prefered editing (cutting or pencil tool like task on clip gain) etc…
in mixing maybe a good starting point to have by genre and considering existing tracks , and from there add your touch
in general could be a great thing to have to remove the tedious tasks by learning users moves, and general AI presets to help those tedious tasks