Why is it Elements get the crappy add-ons and not the useful one’s. From a producer standpoint, Elements is enough to make a professional sound. My problem is when new additions come out, I’m forced to go pro or Artist for even one of them. I think adding the Drum Track to Elements would make more sense than Score Editor. We always get the useless one’s. I just don’t see paying $400+ to upgrade to Pro just to have a few features I may never use. I have been a Cubase user since SX. I like where it’s headed but what version get’s what update should be thought-out better. Even with the Advanced Channel Strip. That should be available on all. That’s an importing tool in mixing. Speaking of… Can you please go back to making the Channel Strip resizable like it was in past versions please? Many of us use multi monitors and its nice to resize it to fit our vision on certain monitors. Love the product just asking for some balance.
Hi,
Producers are the Pro users, not Elements.
Welcome to the music industry. Pro’s pay for things that make them money.
You might be able to get the extra things you want via plugins.
Or master what you have. You’d be surprised at what you can achieve with limitations.
Could Steinberg reduce the price of its product and sell only one single version of it….yes….should steinberg reduce the price of their product and sell only one single version of it….I guess only the accounts team know that.
There is profound wisdom in that statement. I’m in Phase II of a massive scaling back myself, and this concept is at the core of that effort.
The GAS/FOMA struggle is real.
Just because you use Pro doesn’t mean your not a producer. I can create, mix, and master an entire album in Elements. I’m skilled like that. I’m just saying if you have 3 versions of a product, the base and most necessary components should exist across all 3. Take the stem export for example. I referenced the channel strip because my version has the Desser but not in the channel strip. Those are the simple things that should automatically exist. Pro has other advantages that make it the pro version, but the version doesn’t make the person using it a pro.
The problem is that you probably won’t find two people who would agree on what “the base and most necessary components” are (e.g. if I was an Elements user, I couldn’t care less about the advanced channel strip, I never use it).
In the end, Steinberg has to make a decision and cannot please all.
Hi,
There are. You can record, edit and export. These are the most necessary components.
I agree with that as I don’t use all the functions either. But when updates come out, elements get the least useful of the additions. The thing I mostly would like back is the resizable channel strip that we used to have, and the ability to export more than 1 stem at a time. That’s not too much to ask. My only option would be to pay an additional $400 just for those simple features. I run 16 inputs via interface. So when I export my stems I gave to do each one at a time. God forbid I send a project to be mixed to someone.
True but they are so dumbed down. I like Elements as it allows me to do what I need to do. I actually possibly have it doing things it wasn’t supposed to do. I’m just picking at the opportunity to make Elements more comfortable. I may have to move to pro just for 2 simple features that would be beneficial to my workflow.
That may be the problem. I have mastered it. As far as limitations, it can’t be any limits worse then my MPC 60ii with 12 seconds of sample time. Rocked on that for many years and became a master. Now I use my MPC 60ii and my 2500 running into Elements. I even built multiple songs in Elements alone. I might have reached my ceiling in Elements. I may go back to analog.
This will probably sound more callus than intended, but this is how edition-based software works. You pay for bundles of features chosen by the developer to meet general needs while allowing users to choose to upgrade for more features. This is literally how every vendor manages edition-based software licensing. What you get for $99 is remarkable. If you want more, then you have the option to pay for it, just like every other aspect of your life. I’m sorry, but that’s the way it is. If the “simple features” you want are so simple, then write your own DAW. Or automate your process, or do whatever you want to do. I pay for features to replace manual work, just like you paid for Elements so you wouldn’t have to record onto a cassette and cut up pieces of iron-oxide covered polyester taped together into a mix.
If you didn’t read what features were included in Elements, then that’s not anyone else’s fault, and no one is “crapping” on anyone. Sorry man, but that’s what it is.