Cutaway scores with duration lines

[andrea.larose]

Greetings from cutaway score land…

I created the arrow in galley view so I could easily select the space I wanted it to occupy and selected large arrow head, but there are two problems when I switch back to page view.

1. Only the final end point of the arrow has the large head; I want each iteration of what is essentially one long arrow to have the large head.

2. I want no staff and no rests to show up even though there’s an arrow there. Yes arrow, no staff with rests.

Thanks for your help.

cheers,

Andrea

[andrea.larose]

Okay, I see that problem 1 is solved with continuation cap. I appreciate help with problem 2, still.

[jesele]

You can have a line on top of the cutaway. Set it to Inside staff in the Lines editor, or just flip it twice with f. Might be easiest to add the line first, then the cutaway.

Jesper

[andrea.larose]

Hi Jesper,

I saw that you gave this answer also on someone else’s post and I was secretly (and probably wildly unrealistically) hoping that there was a toggle to show or hide lines by now. Guess not! In the meantime… Thanks for your help!

cheers,

Andrea

[jesele]

@andrea.larose

a toggle to show or hide lines

Afraid not.

Jesper

[andrea.larose]

I am not having any success. I have set the line to be inside the staff, but when I do that, the cutaway is disabled and the staff shows back up (actually it doesn’t matter where the line is, as soon as I assign a line, the staff reappears). I tried making a big white line, but that did nothing. I am clearly missing something. Is it because I have cutaways globally set instead of manually set?

[andrea.larose]

Also, I just noticed that I mistyped cutaway in my post title. Fun times.

[jesele]

@andrea.larose

Is it because I have cutaways globally set instead of manually set?

Yes, that is it. You can keep the auto cutaway and add manual cutaways on top of it where needed.

Jesper

[andrea.larose]

Still having issues. It seems to work if the cutaway is within one page, but if it goes across multiple pages, then the arrow vanishes.

[jesele]

You might need two lines then.

Jesper

[andrea.larose]

Like a line for each page? I’ll give it a try. Thanks for being “on call,” as it were.

[jesele]

@andrea.larose

Like a line for each page?

Yes, haven’t tried myself, though.

Jesper

[andrea.larose]

When I added a line for the first page (i.e., the first six measures) and then did a manual cutaway, the line disappeared along with the staff:

So I tried making a shorter line, but then the measures after the line are no longer cutaway:

At what point is this considered a bug? (I mean, I personally am already at that point, but I am not a programmer.)

[MarcLarcher]

@andrea.larose

I mistyped cutaway

Corrected

[jesele]

You might have to start the line slightly before the cutaway and end it slightly after. Not ideal, I admit. Set the smallest grid and cmd+alt+arrow to move it, and alt+shift+arrow to make it longer.

Jesper

Example:

cutaways.dorico (567.0 KB)

[andrea.larose]

Thanks! I couldn’t figure out how to do that either! Having a hard time, it seems…

[andrea.larose]

Thanks, Jesper. I will give that a try.

[jesele]

I just remembered, try using system attached lines instead with alt/opt, and move them down in Engrave mode 4 spaces with cmd+alt+down arrow. Then you don’t need manual cutaways. system attached lines might not work for you for other reasons, though.

Jesper

Stupid Example:

box6.dorico (1.3 MB)

[andrea.larose]

Yes, it doesn’t work for the other reasons, those being that I will need arrows of varying lengths in other parts. This method produces a single arrow that hangs out at the top of the page where the piccolo will be, but has not entered yet.

[andrea.larose]

This seems to work, however, there also seem to be limits on how much you can elongate it. I want to work with it some more before I consider it solved…