Default tempo marking horizontal position

Hi, I would love to have an option in the Engraving Options>Tempo>Horizontal position dialogue that would allow me to force the default tempo mark position to be further left or right. If I could nudge the tempo marks left to be hanging over the key sig, it would make me so happy.

Not sure if this is the right place to type this.

Welcome to the forum, @AlGore. (Thanks for inventing the Internet! :slight_smile: ) I’ve taken the liberty of moving your post to a new thread, since I think it deserves it.

Can you say a bit more about your ideal alignment for tempo marks? Normally tempo marks are either aligned with the rhythmic position at which they take effect, or with the time signature if there is one at that position. I’m not sure under which circumstances aligning a tempo mark with a key signature is commonly done, so it would be useful to know why you would find this useful.

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I agree that tempo marks normally are aligned with the rhythmic position at which they take effect, but when a tempo mark occurs at the beginning of a system, I prefer to have the first letter of the tempo mark over the last accidental of the key signature or even perhaps a little further left. Simply a personally aesthetic and feels a little more correct to me as it informs how you play the first note and tends to be longer than a dynamic marking, so left aligning it with the down beat makes it feel too far to the right for me. Feels like the weight of the bar is off somehow.

Sorry if that was rambling!

My current fixes are to simply adjust manually in engrave more (which is not ideal), or I’m playing around with a paragraph style to achieve tempo mark alignment that way (also not ideal). I think a simple left/right offset in the EngravingOptions>Tempo>HorizontalPosition dialogue would nail it. (also a left/right nudge in addition to an option to align with the end of the key sig would be a real clutch way to do do it but I don’t want to ask for too much.)

above is my ideal placement after manually adjusting and here is the default.

Thanks for your feedback. The trouble I can foresee here is that I assume you only want this offset to be applied when the tempo is at the start of the system, where the key signature is part of what we call the “preamble” (the fixed information before the start of real rhythmic space). That makes the application of the offset trickier, as it has to be applied during certain phases of processing and not during others. Not impossible, but definitely not trivial.

Except that would affect every Tempo that does not occur at the beginning of a system. It may be true for Scores that this is most common, but I doubt it is so for parts.

This would be fine with me, I almost never need to put a tempo mark that doesn’t land on the beginning of a system, and manually adjusting those would be far less inconvenient than manually adjust all tempo marks.

However, I’m sure it’s possible to make a horizontal nudge parameter that only effects tempo marks at the start of a system?

Hello AlGore,

I have exactly the same question as you and also only use metronome marks at the beginning of systems: may I ask if you found a convenient way to fix a default positioning? I actually would prefer to always have them above the key, since above the notes I usually have the chord symbols.

Another question is about the framed number 9 in your example: I also need these kind of numbers and wonder what is the best way to have them with exactly the same size of the frame with different numbers, using them in multiple flows and always in the same position, without having to manually adjust the position each time: using rather text or create a playing technique or still another better way?

Thanks in advance for your help!