"Delete Overlaps" erases Midi data

I don´t like overlaps. That´s why I enabled the “Delete Overlaps” option in the preferences menu. While it does what it should, it also deletes the midi data within the overlaps, so whenever I decide later on that I need to drag some midi event open again, the midi notes are gone and I can´t recover them. It seems this feature is destructive. It doesn´t do that with audio though. All audio data is retained within the event and can be revealed or hidden by trimming the events. I´m working on Windows 10 on a Lenovo Thinkpad W530. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I need to look into this and I am not at my cubase computer. But,
Are you saying “undo” doesn’t recover your data?

Cheers!

Undo recovers the data, yes. So it´s not destructive in that sense. But if I choose to change the length of the midi event at a later point in time, because the arrangement has changed, for instance, undo isn´t an option anymore because too many other steps would have to be undone as well, and then there is no way of getting the midi notes back. I would have to do it all over again, or open an older version of the project and export the midi files (which clearly is annoying). When I trim the length of an event manually the data stays preserved (as it should be). So I can´t imagine this being intended. Maybe it´s just my system and it doesn´t happen on others. If it does though, I would consider it a bug.

I thought about this. Yes it is true that the midi data is kept when you trim yourself, but it is not kept when you “cut” a midi event.

Perhaps it is treated the same. I guess it also depends on if your midi events are “merged automaticall”

Weird. Does that make sense? It seems impractical. Thanks for your input!

Digging up this older thread. I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about this! I’m on Cubase 14 and this is still an issue. I do not like overlaps, so I have the “delete overlaps” option checked. If I paste a midi part over another midi part (such as a drum fill) and adjust the boundaries of the midi part, it does in fact delete the overlaps, but it also erases the midi data in the process! So if I come back later to adjust the bounds of the edit (as you might do with audio as well), the midi notes are nowhere to be found.

I would love to see midi parts act the same as audio. I cannot think of a reason that someone would want the underlying Midi data deleted when adjusting the boundaries of midi parts! I come back to adjust and fine tune edits all the time. My workaround is that I have to duplicate the track version before I make any edits just in case. This adds a step to what should be a basic editing workflow. Is there anyone else out there frustrated by this?

Not me. Quite the contrary, I like it the way it is.