Difference between minimum gap and space in lyrics and hyphens


I’m trying to understand those two setting that seem to control the relation between lyrics and hyphens.

The first one (as I read it) should change the distance between a syllable and a hyphen; but, when I change its value, nothing happens.

The second one (“minimum space”) is clearly defining the space between a syllable and a hyphen:

But given the description, “minimum space to allow for hyphen”, I was hoping that, in some cases, the hyphen would disappear.

Just in case Lillie stumbles upon this thread, I couldn’t find a description of these two options in the manual. It may just be me, but I can’t understand how these two work (given the description).

I’ve seen some posts related to this topic but couldn’t find a complete answer.

Thanks in advance

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Dorico doesn’t yet automatically allow for multi-syllable words to appear without hyphens. I’m sure it’s coming; I for one am looking forward to it as it would be awesome to do this without workarounds:

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Totally agree, this is a much needed feature that I miss from Finale when dealing with tight lyrics.

IIRC (and I do), Daniel agreed that this was needed. Don’t forget the man leads a choir too, so he knows about that bit :wink:

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As much as I would love to have that functionality, I really opened this thread to try to understand how these two options behave, because it seems that the first one isn’t modifying anything, and the second one (IMO, at least) doesn’t do what the description does.

Basically, the first one is modifying the gap between the text of a lyric and the hyphen that immediately follows it or precedes it, in situations in which there is already plenty of space. If the syllable is far from its hyphen then it could be mistaken for its own word in certain cases (e.g. the “in” of “in-side”).

Try setting “gap between hyphens” to a small value such as 2 spaces, then play around with different values of “minimum gap” to see what it’s doing more clearly.

I do agree that the picture in Layout Options is misleading, because it really only affects situations where there is more than one hyphen. Otherwise the hyphen is centered between the syllables.

Thanks! Now I finally understand what it’s doing. I still think that the images and the description could be changed to reflect a bit better what they are really supposed to do. Anyway, hope that those changes are on the way for the next version.