Diminshed / half diminished chord symbols

hi, dorico . . .

i’m just wondering why, in the engraving rules under chord symbols, the diminished symbol is a default m7b5, given that they are two different types of chords .

what am i missing ?

thanks !

holly

I’m not quite sure what you mean. I just looked at the factory defaults and a diminished triad is set to minor flat 5, not m7b5. A diminished 7th is set to use dim7, and half-diminished 7th is set to m7b5. There’s nowhere in the factory settings that has a basic diminished triad or 7th set to be m7b5 as that would of course be incorrect.

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i see what you mean . . . technically, the diminished triad = minor triad with a b5, so as it stands it’s correct, but as a jazz musician whose 7ths are implied in every chord symbol except for the diminished and until we’re told otherwise, this reads as the half-diminished ! until dorico i’d never seen a diminished triad articulated this way . thanks for clarifying !

holly

Yeah, while not incorrect, minor b5 is certainly uncommon. I think I changed that within my first 15 minutes of using Dorico as I agree it’s a poor choice for a default setting.

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As a jazz musician, I always use 0 [circle] for full diminished and Ø [ circle with a line through it] for half diminished. So far, whatever I type in comes out M7b5, which clutters up the manuscript and is misleading. Please explain how to change the default.

Check the settings under Library->Engraving Options->Chord Symbols
After changing the settings, there’s a Save as Default button at the lower left.

Jesper

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That is incredible! Thank you so much for your assistance.
Is there a way to watch the score during playback (instead of the MIDI symbols)?

Yes, in write or engrave mode. Cmd-2 or Cmd-3 (Mac). You can select a note and press p to start playback from there. In write mode you can select page or galley view under the View menu.

Jesper