Does N12 automatically lower Ls + Rs levels?

I’m calibrating my 5.1 speaker setup using Neumann’s pink noise files and have found that N12 is outputting the Ls and Rs channels roughly 6dB down on the LCR channels, when passing through a 5.1 output buss- can’t find any mention of this being default behaviour in Nuendo. Does anyone know if it is? Can I change this setting?

My setup is: 6 channels on the timeline, each playing a pink noise file, in descending order the channels are individually direct routed to the L / R / C / LFE / Ls / Rs outputs. LCR output identically, Ls + Rs show a lower output. If I switch the routing of either the Ls or Rs channel to one of the LCR outputs, the level jumps up to the expected -18 RMS. Down to -24RMS again if switched back. I’ve double checked the files (identical) and channel settings (identical).

Here’s what I’m seeing in the mix console - can anyone clarify what’s causing this behaviour? Thanks!

I’m not seeing what you’re seeing. If I route a mono source track to a 5.1 output then the panner itself will maintain the same power output or if I select the direct LS or RS child-bus within the 5.1 path the same power is output. Same reading.

I’m curious about your source track being 5.1 though, as well as your panning window suggesting a downmix happening. Why are you using a 5.1 source track and what type of routing are you doing to get to the target channels in your output?

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Thanks for pitching in, Mattias. I think you may have highlighted where I’m going wrong - my source tracks are 5.1 but I’m playing a mono file on each of them… I’m going to start again, this time x 6 mono tracks routed to a 5.1 output buss. To answer your question, I’d set the Direct Routing on each track to the output I wished to hear the pink noise file coming out of, from the 5.1 output buss. So, L-R-C-LFE-Ls-Rs; thought that was the smart way to go about it

Problem solved - thanks MattiasNYC :+1: