Hi Folks
I am on a Mac (silicon), OS 14, Dorico 5
See pic:
Selecting all parts in the left hand layout window, selecting print, saving as a PDF only result in one part being “printed”.
If I use the right hand side…I can export as pdfs each part separately, which I then can move together in one document (not efficient!)
What am I missing?
Hi @ste2123190, if you need to print: you need to select Printer, on the right side, and use the button on the bottom right side, instead of the system dialogue print on the left bottom side:
If you need to export as PDF, select Graphics, choose your export location, and use the Export button on the bottom right:
Do you need a PDF with all parts in it? What would be the purpose of this? If you then make changes to one part only, you would need to rebuild your PDF with all the parts… Sorry I don’t understand what the advantage of this would be, instead of having one PDF per Layout/Part, comfortably separated.
I package all my quartet/chamber arrangements into a single pdfs (I use the webservice Sejda to merge them). It’s certainly helpful for each player to get the score as well as their individual part when rehearsal time is at a premium.
Thank you @Janus for the clarification.
So each Player becomes a single PDF with the full score and his/her own Part, if I understand correctly? I understand that this would have the advantage to send only one PDF instead of two, to each Player.
From the OP screenshot seems that he tried to export only the parts (without full score) in one single PDF. What would be the reason/usage for having a PDF with all the parts (and no full score)? (sorry probably I miss something obvious)
No. For a small ensemble (eg a string quartet) there is a single pdf file including score and all parts. Everyone gets the same file (via the same email!). It’s crude but simple and effective for our needs.
(Filesize becomes unmanageable for large ensembles - so I wouldn’t use it there. But it’s a system we set up many years ago - before dropbox/wetransfer existed.
Yes, as I said in my original post that is what I did, but it prints out all the parts separately…I was trying to print them all out as a continuous PDF.
Very simply…I am wrote a clarinet octet. I prepare teh score plus parts for the conductor.
Also: I routinely send just the parts to other members of the ensemble.
Even so, I can’t print out score plus parts in one continuous file regardless.
see pics
OP:
Sorry, the sequence of the steps you described had me thinking that you pressed the print button on the bottom left, as you cannot select the layouts before you select the Print mode panel.
steps on my mac:
Open Dorico
Go to print tab: score on the left is already highlighted.
Select all parts on the left layout panel.
Press print on the right: only one part prints.
Press print/graphics on R: all are saved as separate files.
Why can’t I save all parts as a PDF so I can send them off?
At least in my world of ensemble playing, quartets/quintets/octets we all get all parts because we often make changes to which part we will play as rehearsal goes on…
No, I don’t think this functionality exists. (but I may be wrong)
When you print/export, you choose layouts (that are separate entities), and Dorico FWIK cannot produce a layout that contains both Full Score and Part (because they use different Page Templates Sets, and use probably different Layout Options).
Maybe in future will exist a possibility to combine them when printing/exporting, or even merge Full Score and Part in one single-common-extra layout (that is then printable/exportable). Or maybe someone comes out with some trick to obtain this*.
*EDIT: see my post below for a (quite complicated and not recommended!) possible setup to obtain this.
Meanwhile combining the PDFs after exporting seems to be the only solution.
Are the parts and score the same size “paper”?
yes. all same size.
Per Christian, it looks like that functionality doesn’t exist…but heck, presonus notion, and musescore can…don’t know about Finale…was never a user…
Indeed. The fact that you cannot easily create a Layout that merges both Full Score and Parts, it is probably due to Dorico usage of specific Page Templates Sets and Layout Options, etc…
(but maybe from the print panel will, in future, be possible to merge them at the moment of printing/exporting…)
Anyway as a pure exercise (was fun), I made a Custom score Layout example, where the full score and the parts coexist (using custom page templates with strategical addressed Music Frames chains and Players assignments, and some inserted Page Templates Changes, etc…).
This is of course just a mere exercise in Dorico Music Frames chains functionality, as the workflow is quite convoluted, and error prone (as it uses “virtual” First and Default Page Templates for each player, as custom Page Templates), and has several other disadvantages (not separate Layout Options for example). I didn’t bother to put page numbers tokens, or headers tokens on the custom templates…
For whom may be interested, I attach the Dorico file:
unfied layout with full score and parts.dorico (685.8 KB)
Thanks!
Life is trade-offs…As a long time user of Notion, it has always served well for my needs working principally with small scores.
But, Notion simply has not been updated, and I doubt it ever will be to include such things as VST3 support, managing multi-movements, etc.
This was my first sojourn of actually writing a quintet from scratch on Dorico, and I found it pretty straightforward.
I find it very annoying to receive parts and score combined in one big PDF. Then it becomes my task to decide which pages to print, on what paper, and how to set up double-sidedness. This will almost inevitably go wrong the first time (and chances are, the second time too…).
Just zip up the whole folder of distinct PDFs (one mouseclick in the Finder), and send that to everybody.
If you really want to merge all the scores and parts into one big PDF, then it is almost effortless to do this.
On a Mac, it’s a right-click in the Finder, and select “Create PDF.” There are thousands of utilities that will combine PDFs quickly on every platform.
But I agree with Pjotr – preventing one part from printing on the back of a previous one is far more work than dealing with individual files.
benwiggy: As a long time mac user (40+ years), it is always amazing to me that someone shows me a new way to do things that I didn’t know…
Heck, I thought I had to use automator to combine them with a simple stroke…
I didn’t know that there was a create PDF under quick action in the finder!!!
Thanks!
PjotrG: to each their own…the older folks I deal with would never want me to do that.
