I was actually half joking with this… I used this controller when it came out as a novelty just to see what it was all about. It even has a Midi interface app, but it’s pretty convoluted to get it to work.
Other apps that it had were sculpting apps or drawing apps, but without tactile feedback it’s pretty awkward… Conducting, on the other hand is without tactile feedback by design. 
But in order to write tempo track data from interpreting conducting gestures above the device, it would have to come a long way.
From a hardware point though, that thing is pretty awesome and well suited for this.
But I guess there’s a reason the guy that invented this controller went on and started midjourney… 
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Oh wow! I had no idea.
I actually use Leap Motion to create pitch bends with hand tilts and really love it (although it’s a tiny fraction of what it can do. For expression controller, I found TEC a lot more reliable and responsive.
See, and I didn’t know you were already a user… Cool!
Again, I lost interest after a good while, but I still think it just lacked a killer app.
And it was too much tinkering for the things it could do.
P. S. My favorite USB gadget is the Stream Deck, that’s how much complexity I can handle, pressing buttons that tell me what they’ll do when I press them… 
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It’s good to practice trying to see music in actual notation in one’s mind as one hears it. This makes it much easier to notate music. Probably better not to rely on software as a crutch.
Thanks, good points, but we’re going down a bunny trail, FWIW I do see notes when I hear it, I just meant that there’s sometimes a finessing that goes on. ANYHOW moving on 
Agreed. These days I use the breath controller even for the modwheel libraries that are on CC1 for expression. It’s a lot more convincing (and addictive!) than manually drawing curves. I also discovered that using breath controller makes me more aware and conscious of phrasing and the amount of vibrato in woodwind ensembles.
But I will revisit the Leap Motion for more functionality when Audio Modelling release their Ensemble Strings later this year.
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Yeah exactly. If you guys really want it then you can do it now, just get your music all ready and the MIDI, export that to Cubase, then assign a foot pedal or fader to automate the tempo. Actually a wheel would probably work best, the one used for pitch mod that center spring loaded as that will encourage rubato and not wild swings. Done.
And it makes good sense, as that’s more performance than music writing, so relegate it to the DAW. This kind of highlights the idea that the DAW is good for performance related stuff.
If waving arms is what’s required, I saw a video a while ago where someone was using a theremin as a midi controller - maybe that could work. 
Alternatively: Digital Conducting Baton 
Personally, I’d go with @dan_kreider’s suggestion: tapping the rhythm out. It’s simple and won’t require a lot of setup or a great deal of skill. I wasn’t aware of the way Finale do it but I’ve just seen it online and it does the job.
would like to see the ties to harmonics implemented too
Hello Daniel,
My name is ninobeatz. Huge fan of all things Steinberg!! I’m also Admin of the iPadOS & AUv3 Facebook group and I’d love for you to join us and thoroughly explain Dorico 5 and the focus towards iOS. Great way to have a direct line to the IOS community. Hope to see you there 
I have just installed D5.0.10. The improvements are IMPROVEMENTS. Thanks.
This part of my replay has almost nothing to do with Dorico, but only Daniel can have some valuable input here. One of the updates I had in parallel with D5 was alto glockenspiel, and I hoped that this time it will be transported to iLOK. The instrument is very nice, but it also is one of the only two Steinberg licences still residing on eLicenser, what makes me keep two dongles instead of one.
Any chance these two licences will go to iLOK in a foreseeable future?
Witold
I thought the Alto Glock had been ported over to the SAM. Check to see if there isn’t a voucher to let you move to the new version.
(I might be wrong, but it’s worth checking the Steinberg site for the voucher.)
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I generally agree with this. Cubase is simply amazing when it comes to the sophistication of how you can create a stellar mix in multiple formats (stereo, 5.1, etc.). I like to do 95% of the mix in Cubase and then send the stems out to Mixbus32C for the final mix. MB just has that “juice”. Don’t ask me to explain, lol!
The only writing I do in Cubase is the soft synths, sound design, samples and special stuff. That is really hard to do in a Notation app like Dorico. For 100% orchestral, I compose in Dorico, every time with almost no exceptions. But for hybrid compositions, it gets really tough. For simpler setups I can do the basic synth stuff in Cubase and export as video to Dorico and off we go. But for more complicated projects or projects with multiple conforms, it gets messy in a hurry.
That’s why I’m hoping that progress has been made with being able to sync between Cubase and Dorico. We used to be able to doi that with reWire and Sibelius but ReWire has gone the way of the iPod. So now I am placing my hopes in the hands of Daniel and the Dorico dev team. I was hoping D5 would have it but I’m keeping the faith… I just don’t know if the new features are enough for me to upgrade (though the new Instrument Editor looks REEEEEALY sexy!)
not anymore…
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It has become available on Steinberg Licensing in the last few days, though I didn’t get a voucher for it. Download the latest version from Steinberg Download Manager, then get a new licence on Steinberg Licensing. The same approach works for Guitar Harmonics essential (get your licence here) and Novel Piano (no licence needed).
I’m now eLicenser free other than VST Connect Pro 5, which has yet to migrate.
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You were right. What needed to be done was to remove eLicenser, deactivate Alto Glock and reactivate it back. Thanks for pushing me in correct direction.
Witold
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In general, I experienced that discontented customers usually feel more pressed to utter their feelings than the silent (satisfied) majority who don’t feel any need to express themselves. I can only hope this is true here, too!
When I first read about the release of Dorico 5 back in May, I immediately knew: This one’s for me! Happy me, my little compositions and my Steinberg T-Guitar.
I lost no time and bought it right away. And I’m absolutely and entirely with @gdball on this, – dream come true, tailor made for my needs, my own personal Christmas and all that. No struggling with the update at all. Audio engine and plugins loading lots faster than they did before. Everything (dare I speak it out loud?) immediately working as expected. I can close and open projects and still playback continues to work. Sends and an easily adjustable live stage feature producing a greatly improved mix. Midi triggers to better integrate TGuitar. Plus a gorgeous new drum kit to make my drum tracks sound a lot more realistic…
Dorico team, me too, I’m saying Thank you so VERY much!
I am just one of those unfortunate amateur composers whose music is never EVER going to be played by real live musicians. Still, my songs mean a lot to me and Dorico is my best chance to give voice to them, something that two years ago I didn’t even know might be possible. It’s a very nice voice at that, and I do and will embrace every move the Dorico team is undertaking to make it sound even better.
To me, Dorico is not (mainly) a software to turn notation into printed sheets, but it turns my notation into music, and I am grateful for every single one of its DAW-like features. That’s not because I’d want to skip spending money on a full-fledged DAW (I’ll gladly add it to Dorico’s price) but because I can’t ever imagine composing in a DAW and I cherish how I can always apply little changes or try out things and easily check the outcome with some kind of mixing and most of my mixing plugins applied. In all honesty, I’d rather try to learn how to handle Dorico really well instead of having to deal with yet another very complex program (which the rest of my brain and life span might be a tad too short for).
So I’m very happy with the upgrade, it’s worth every cent of the price. Thank you again!
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The new (and older) humanisation features in Dorico really work great with Sample Modeling. Since the timbral change is smooth and therefore sensitive to small changes of cc11 (dynamics) it works great.
Here I used my custom made expression map for the Sample Modeling Strings and used it for the score I found on MuseScore. Changed the tempo and put maybe 6 hairpins at the end of some phrases. Other sounds are from NP4 default sounds.
I just this minute upgraded to 5 on my speedy Windows 11 machine but now everything feels palpably faster. It’s great. Is this just my over active imagination at work? If not, thanks team!
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