I know this has been covered elsewhere, but none of the recommended solutions is working. I can “add” a glyph to the existing 8ba, but then I end up with two glyphs. Cannot figure out how to delete the original.
Is there a way to delete it so I can replace it?
For Steinberg staff: why is it so difficult to change this? It would seem to be far easier to just allow a direct edit of the text (again, I can add 8vb to the existing but again end up with “8ba8vb”)?
HOW DO I FIX THIS? It’s not as if 8vb is never used, and those of us working against a deadline to deliver a score with the conventions of the people who will perform the music are stymied by your company’s intransigence…
Try opening Library->Music Symbols->Octave Lines and replace the 8ba with 8vb. Click the trash can to delete the 8ba, select Octaves under range, and double-click the 8vb.
You can click the star icon (save as default) for the change to be the default.
Hi @danielleoh, please consider checking the post by@jesele as Solution. This helps other users to find the answers faster and is a kind gesture towards the helper. Thank you!
Maybe not quite as bad as it seems, but there are a whole lot simpler ways to manage this. Oh well, not gonna grumble. It was at least possible, and the community helped me find my way…
Just ran across this issue tonight. In your picture as I see when I open the music symbol editor there is a listing for 8vb already there with the correct glyph. Is there no way to use that in one’s score? Changing the 8ba one is the only way I can get an 8vb. Any idea what the purpose of the 8vb entry is for if we can’t use it when entering octave lines?
If you look above you’ll see a response marked solution. The mystery was that there’s a tiny trash can icon that needs to be pressed to remove the existing glyph, then the one you mentioned can be selected. If you only click “add glyph” you end up with 8ba8vb, making absolutely no one happy.
The Music Editor lets you edit every SMuFL glyph, even if they are not explicitly used by Dorico (e.g. available as an option within Engraving Options).
So, you might have used the SMuFL glyph for 8vb as a text item throughout a document, and Music Symbols editor would let you change that glyph globally in one go.
I see it as with instruments. You have all sorts of instruments you can assign to a player in setup mode, but sound libraries only for the most common ones. Would be an awful lot of options/settings if every bravura glyph were to be used.
I could be missing something, but I don’t think this is true. As far as I can tell, glyphs inserted as part of something like staff text are taken directly from the specified font and are not interpreted by the music symbols editor. I believe that the editor only defines symbols that Dorico programmatically makes use of.
I tested this by adding staff text with a treble clef, which the Insert Music Text dialog identifies both with its SMuFL name (“gClef”) and Unicode code point. Then I used the music symbols editor to change the definition of “G clef”, at which point the clefs in my score changed, but not the clef in my text item. Even when I explicitly changed the staff text to use Bravura, rather than the default Bravura Text implied by the Music Text character style, the clef in the text did not change.
That doesn’t answer my question and I don’t understand what it is supposed to mean. All the comments and marked solution say to change the 8ba music symbol glyph to 8vb but there is already an 8vb music symbol on the left side prior to making the change.. What is that one for? I can’t find any way to use it in my project.
Yes, but it’s not connected to anything as far as I know, so perhaps it’s there for future use. If you want to use 8vb now, you have to replace one of the ones that are used, like the 8ba.
Jesper
I’m of course just guessing, only staff can answer why.
My guess would be that because strictly speaking the correct abbreviation to use from music theory viewpoint is 8ba (in Italian = ottava bassa) and that’s why Dorico defaults to it, but the 8vb marking used a lot nowadays - which possibly has originated from writing jazz charts - is simply also available in the music font to be used, if so desired.
I’m trusting my rusty memory here but seem to recall needing to treat it as a glyph, deleting the 8ba symbol in the editor then choosing the 8vb glyph, then setting that as default. I found it frustrating that I couldn’t simply deal with it in the text editor as your post suggests
I think we’re talking about different things. The procedure you describe, using the Music Symbols dialog, is the one that’s used to change the glyph that Dorico uses for a particular purpose. Another comment had suggested that this dialog also changes glyphs used in text; I was pointing out that this doesn’t seem to be the case.
