How well does Dorico work for contemporary composing in the lines of the following examples?
Penderecki - Threnody for the victms of Hiroshima
Berio - Sequenza
Any contemporary music by Terry Riley, Pierre Boulez, Phillip Glass, Alfred Schnittke, etc.
Can I use Dorico for contemporary style composing, in order to obtain a score that looks like these examples?
How good is the sound control for such projects? How do you control the triggered sounds?
Why would I choose Dorico for this task, in comparison to selecting Sibelius or Finale for the same task?
There are several contemporary things Dorico does not yet do: box notation, graphical elements, etc. However, custom noteheads are easy, as well as pretty much any playing technique you could want.
You really canāt do Threnody in Dorico. Search the forum for āgraphicalā and youāll find some helpful threads discussing this development philosophy.
Iāll PM you a link to some contemporary scores I use when presenting Dorico, as an example of what it can do (I donāt have permission to post these publicly).
Why should you go with Dorico? Because the development pace is astonishing, and each new update brings a wealth of wonderful features. No, seriously. Finale and Sibelius are the industry stalwarts, but theyāre dead in the water. Very little development, so what you have now is what youāll probably have in 3 years, bugs and all.
Some of these, such as the Penderecki, will require so many imported graphics it would be quicker to do in a graphics app. Sequenza would be possible but with a lot of fudges (in D, F or S). All three programs are geared towards traditional notation (at least as far as notes on staves are concerned). There is at least a chance that Dorico will in the future be able to get close.
Just an observationā¦ in 2015 I was on the jury of an international composing competition and we had 69 works submitted. Of those, 2 were handwritten and 2 were done in Sibelius. The remaining 65 were done in Finale, and very few of those revealed a sound mastery of the program. The market potential for Dorico is probably huge if Steinberg and the team have the resources and strength to cater for the composing avant-garde ā¦
Iām sure that Dorico will implement most of these things in the future. The development speed is so rapid and comprehensive, and driven by Daniel and others who are capable of really understanding this stuff.
The microtonal capabilities of Dorico are amazing - up to 12,000 divisions per octave, no hidden pitch bends or anything extra required. The accidental editor works great.
Am i right if i say the following:
adding a meantone temperament within Dorico for the piano so that you donāt have to use for example Helmholtz accidentals, is not possible, cause i would have to divide the octave in 19 tones - which is not possible in Doricoā¦or am i wrong with this statement?
Iād just like to write: āpiano tuned in meantone temperamentā (or using a special key) with no further microtonal accidentals.
Can you explain a little further? How do you intend to display the notes on the page? Are you planning on only using 12 of the 19 pitches within each octave?
Thanx Leoā¦thatās of great help.
I just wonder: the distance in a meantone system of a whole step is 193 Cents and of a half step 117.
If I take your advice, i get:
1200 / 19 = 63,2 Cents
So for a half step Iād get 126,4 and a whole step Iād get 189,6. Especially for the half step, you would hear the 9 Cents difference to a ānormalā meantone tuning.
Point taken. My maths might not be perfect (I did fail A Level Maths many years ago, albeit mainly because I knew I was going to a conservatoire with an unconditional offer), but try something along these lines:
Hey Leo,
I donāt think that this changes a lotā¦cause u still divide the octave in 19 halfsteps (1999/63)ā¦which would mean you keep the 3/2 ratio which would mean you are still at 126 for half steps and 189 for whole steps.
But probably Iām wrong with my maths here now
