Dorico generates the wrong chord symbol

Hi,
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As you can see in the attached image above, Dorico gives this chord a wrong chord suffix. It should be called Ab7(#9 b13). There is no need for writing “add b13”.

Does anyone know how to correct Dorico?

Engraving options> Chord symbols> Alterations> Appearance of added notes, select Always omit “add”

But your music illustration tells it’s a C7 with a b13 and a #9, why Ab7(#9 b13) ???
I’d write it as a poly chord instead, or maybe C7(#9,b13) but I’d remove the 5th from the LH chord as it will clash with the b13 on the RH.

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Thanks for your reply!
In C7 a-flat is b13, and e-flat is #9. The order does not matter. Also, chord symbol rules do not require to use (add) in this case. (add) is used when one of the lower extensions is excluded, like in C7 add13, which could also be written as C13 (omit 9).
Also, changing the preference will not solve the problem. It will actually creat more problems instead, because chords like C7 add13 would not be expressed correctly anymore.
I just can’t figure out why Dorico would use addb13. The chord symbol it created simply does not exist.

I’d guess it’s because the 11th is omitted. But asking Dorico to guess a spelling of a chord this complex is asking for trouble, when you can easily just type what you want.

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Thanks very much for your thoughts!

  1. This is not a complex chord symbol. Jazz musicians write it all the time, and they don’t usually write it as a poly chord. Check any fake book there is if you don’t believe me.
  2. Dorico does know poly chords. So why is it not writing it as Ab over C7 if you think poly chords are the preferred way of writing this chord?
  3. Logic Pro recognizes the chord correctly, and so do other programs I use.
  4. I am writing this so the guys programming the software can improve it, not to argue about what’s better, chord symbols with extensions or poly chords.
    I think we can stop discussing this now. Hopefully the Dorico team will look into it.
    CHEERS!

I just want to check, since you write “gives,” are you (1) entering the notes, selecting them, then invoking Edit > Notations > Chord Symbols and Diagrams > Generate Chord Symbols from Selection…; or (2) typing SHIFT + Q and naming the chord through the pop-over?

When I have Dorico generate the symbol in a default Dorico project I get the same symbol you posted (with the add13), which I agree is not the right choice.

But when I invoke the pop-over and type:

I get:


P.S.

I’m assuming that’s a typo and you meant to write C7…, yes? (That might explain some of the confusion in the thread.)

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