Usually I use a VEP Pro project with multiple instances all with 16 or less channels routed to output 1-2 to maximum 31-32, all going to port 1. This works perfectly despite using the same output channel numbers in multiple VEP instances., you get faders in the Dorico mixer for each instrument (so e.g. with 6 VEP instances you get 6 times a 1-2 output fader correctly labeled with the instrument name). You can add inserts on these e.g. you can send the signals. for all instruments to MIR Pro.
I was now trying to convert my multiple instance VEP template to one instance only for the full orchestra using different ports for each library. So what was a unique instance in the original VEP template would now be using a unique port number.
The problem I am now facing is that with this VEP setup, I only get 16 faders in the Dorico mixer.
I have tried numbering the outputs in VEP beyond 31-32 but then you get no sound for those instruments which is understandable as Dorico has only 16 audio output channels I think..
Using only the output channels 1-2 till 31-32 does work and all instruments with port number higher than 1 sound but you do not get a separate fader for them in the mixer (also not under unused). I can therefore not send the signal to MIR and assign a separate position and other instrument specific parameters for them.
Is this normal or am I missing a setting somewhere? Somehow it seems weird that you get separate faders for 6 or more signals going to the same output channel when using multiple instances in VEP but not when you use different ports instead.
Thanks Leigh. That will not help because as far as I know I cannot put MIR Pro 3D on a VEP output channel. I have to put it on the Dorico output channel.
The reason for trying out a one instance VEP setup is that I hoped to get an instrument order in MIR which is the same as the standard orchestral player order which is used in Dorico setup mode and not the one imposed by the Dorico mixer channel order which seems to be linked at least partially to the order of the VST rack instruments.
Users have asked numerous times in this forum for the same order in the Dorico mixer as used in the setup but this seems to be very complicated. Cubase has the same inflexible rack instrument setup but there you can more or less freely shift your VST and midi tracks around to at least in the mixer get the desired order. However when sending the signals to MIR you have the same issue as in Dorico. The order will not reflect the mixer view but rack instrument order.
I have been unable to set up a VEP Pro single Instance with each instrument assigned to the same port, but different channels as mentioned by the OP. For example, violin port 1, channel 1, viola port 1, channel 2. This procedure worked fine with Sibelius, which I had used with VEP Pro for several years. At present, using the latest version of Doreco 6, when I try to route the Viola in the example, Doreco asks for a second instance of VP and creates a second Endpoint with the Viola shown in port 1, channel 1, even though the first instance of VP for the violin has successfully connected to VP and the Endpoint is correct. I can’t figure what I am doing wrong.
This should work perfectly as mentioned above. I now even put MIR on all VEP channels. In stereo that also works perfectly. I experimented and discovered that my statement above was not correct.
Here the method to connect a VEP instance to Dorico. First in Play mode in the VST rack (tight tab) connect the VEP instances or instances you want to use. Next also in play mode use the other tab and connect the instruments to the instance and channel you have defined in VEP and in the previous step connected to Dorico. Maybe you forgot that step.
Dorico doesn’t ask for new VST. I’m not sure what you really mean by that. There are situations when using a Playback Template that Dorico will create a new VST when adding an instrument in Setup mode and when working with VEP, it is definitely messy.
Agreed a playback template with VEP instances will often create two versions of the same VEP instance to connect instruments which are both in the same instance on different channels in VEP. The second one then obviously has no instance in VEP to connect to.
As I wrote in another thread, I therefore use project templates instead.
You are correct; there is I wording asking for something. When I seek to link a second track to the VEP Instance I have already successfully “Connected”, that VEP Instance does not appear. Instead a form appears in which I am to insert a second VEP Instance. That’s the “ask.” It is as though I had not already done a Connect with the first instance.
Does this mean that after I first create and Connect a VEP Instance (which works) that I should thereafter create a new Playback Template before proceeding further, and thereafter, with the new Playback Template loaded, try again to link to that first Instance?
Once that’s loaded and you have connected to the appropriate instance, you then need to use the other panel (Track Inspector) where you then route the instruments to the (just loaded and connected) VST. Here, two pianos
Thank you. I never understood why there were two tabs and their relationship with one another. I still don’t, but you have shown me how to use them. Steve
