Dorico in Cubase

The currently released Cubase 14 comes with a completely new score editor based on Dorico. This looks pretty impressive.

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It’s pretty cool!
I hope this is a clue a foreshadowing of Cubase and Dorico integration !

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Wow, how big is that monitor?!!

I guess that explains this remark Daniel made a while ago:

Hopefully, the Dorico team can now get back to working on Dorico – and maybe the Cubase guys can return the favour!

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I guess it does! This is historic, actually. Very, very good job by the team, the demo video is stunning. :open_mouth::sunglasses::+1:

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This is great news!
I wonder if it’s a coincidence, or the team wanted to give folks some good news upon waking up on Nov. 6th haha (and this is from a Canadian!).
Back to music: thank you to the team for this important step in integrating the two softwares! Looking forward to checking it out.
Cheers

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Indeed! I believe that’s an IMAX-mini monitor.

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You can now export layouts directly in Dorico project format. This is going to be a timesaver when going from Cubase to Dorico.

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But, if Cubase gets Dorico’s score editor; and Dorico gets Cubase’s DAW features… then what’s the difference…? :thinking:

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There is a ton of features that is available in one or the other.

Dorico is far away from being a DAW, with all the features, plugins, and composing components Cubase has. On the other hand the score editor in Cubase is missing basically the complete engrave mode and many other features in write mode, that you are probably using for notation.

For me it is an absolut fantastic integration, I loaded one of my Cubase projects, opened the Score Editor, enabled visibilty for the tracks I wanted to see and got the complete notation. I then saved it as a Dorico project and can now happily work on the project with all Dorico tools.

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I doubt they are going to go quite that far. What I am hoping to see some fine day in the future is a unified project file format, that can be opened in both applications and allow me to seamlessly switch between them. That would be a fine day indeed.

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If updates to Cubase Artist 14 start at 99 hundred dollars, imagine what the full version must cost:

The image comes from this webpage in the United States.

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:joy:

but there are upgrades and cross-grades prices

And yet at the bottom of the compare editions page appears this:

I’m sure Steinberg will be happier with a $9,570 typo in their favor than last summer’s “surprise” Dorico 6 “rollout.” :slightly_smiling_face:

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I believe that specific incorrect price has now been corrected. We’re sorry for the confusion caused.

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(Sure you are… :pound: :smirk: :rofl:)

Thanks for your work on this exciting new edition, Daniel. I’m reading forward to your blog post about it!

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This is absolutely fantastic news! Congratulations to the team!

I haven’t read about it or tested it yet, but I guess that one of the crucial differences between Dorico and “Dorico in Cubase” is that the former has music notation as the source of truth, while the latter simply uses notation as an alternative view of the underlying MIDI data from Cubase?

Somewhat related to that, how does the new score editor work with expression maps from Cubase?

The new Score Editor is indeed driven completely from MIDI data. You can influence the notation through the use of quantization, including display quantize changes, but ultimately the notation is driven from MIDI, even if you create notes in the Score Editor.

There is not as yet particularly deep integration with expression maps. In general, the team has not focused on expression maps in this development cycle, but as we look to the future, we are of course always considering how to make working with expression maps in Cubase more streamlined and more functional.

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I’m gobsmacked. Bravissimo Steinberg! What a marvellous surprise.

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Daniel, I know this is not the Cubase forum, but the score editor’s tempo marking doesn’t reflect Cubases’ tempo settings (yet…)! Maybe you can pass this on to the Cubase guys?

Cheers, Benji

P.S.: I just found the place to change it, but it should default to Cubases’ value, shouldn’t it?

There is a two-way link between tempo changes in the score editor and in Cubase’s tempo track, so changing one should change the other (with some limitations). If you have a reproducible case that’s not working as expected, please create a thread on the Cubase forum