I’m having trouble applying a page template to the first page of my part. My score templates work fine, but I cannot apply the “First” part template to my parts, it seems like it is stuck on “Default”. I tried applying a page change to the first page, which works, but then it just adds another page of the “Default” first page. The last time I used these functions were a few months ago and I swore I only just clicked on the page and then the template to change it. Has this function changed recently?
The functionality hasn’t changed recently.
Please double click on the first page template to open it in the page template editor, then upload a screenshot of what appears.
At the top left corner of the music frame, try setting the Frame Chain Selector (currently MN) to MA. Apply, close then have another go at making the Page Template Change.
By default that selector is set to MA for both the First page template and the Default page template, but it is (or was?) possible to trip up if you import a Page Template or Page Template Set into a project.
Music Frame Chains tell Dorico where to put your music, basically. Typically you’d want to fill up page 1, then when page 1 is full you’d like Dorico to automatically create a page 2 and fill that, etc.
In some circumstances it’s necessary to be able to do cleverer stuff, so you have the option of using L* frames - which are standalone so don’t relate to a Chain at all - or multiple M* chains - meaning multiple music frame chains that operate independently. For instance, if you need to display a piano duet layout with the Secondo player on the left pages and the Primo player on the right pages, you could tell Dorico to use MA frames on one side and MB (or MN; Dorico comes up with the second letter automatically) frames on the other side, and you could use the filters at the top to tell MA to only show the Secondo player and MB to only show the Primo player.
I’m not explaining terribly well; long story short there’s functionality that you’ve stumbled into that you don’t really need, and that’s why when you added a page template change manually Dorico started repeating your music, because two different frame chains were in use and both referred to all your music.
I have this same issue, but the solution didn’t work for me. I’ve edited the First page template, the Frame Chain Selector if set to MA (whatever this is), and my choices under Layouts are “Use ‘First’ page template: First flow only”, and “Show flow headings: All flows”. On page 1, I only see the project title, but not the flow title (which I’ve included as a token in the page template), or project composer. Any further advice? Thanks!
Difficult to know what’s going on without seeing the project.
Does your first page contain any actual music? If not, a flow token isn’t going to work, even if there’s only one flow in the project - you’d need to be explicit and use {@flow1Title@} (assuming it’s the first flow in the project).
Or is it possible that there are overrides showing as red corners on the page thumbnails in the Pages panel, top right corner of Engrave mode? If so, you’ll need to right-click the page thumbnail and Remove Page Override(s) before they’ll take on any changes you’ve made to the Page Template.
Thanks for the quick reply! Correction to my earlier post that what is missing from p. 1 is the Flow title. Project composer is visible. No red triangles anywhere. This is what I see:
I have to dash off for the day, but I’m suspicious that Flow Headings are set to show for all flows. That would suggest you’ve manually deleted a Flow Heading, or altered the Flow Heading template in such a way that it doesn’t contain anything.
If you set Flow Title In Header to Show above flow heading, that might bring back your flow title.
It really is easier to see the project itself. Does your first page have page overrides? Did you select the correct layout on the right when in layout options?
Right now it’s just guessing…
Ok, reading your first post again I have seen that you included the flow token in the master page. You don’t need to do that. In Dorico, the flow header will be placed automatically within the music frame.
Did you change the flow header template?
Again, if we saw the project your problem would probably have been solved yesterday already…
Got it, thanks. Here’s the project, though with content deleted. What I’d like is for the first page to have the project title (already does), followed by the numbered flow title, which is missing. (Again, not sure if there’s a difference between “heading” and “title”.) For the second flow, I’d like to have the flow title (already there), composer name, and lyricist name. Lyricist name should appear below the composer name when there is a lyricist (first flow doesn’t have a lyricist, second one does).
I deleted the flow token in the template (master page) after reading your previous response.
(To the Dorico team: A lot of time was spent last week trying to figure out what and where the “master page” is since that term is still all over the manuals and videos.) Wonderful New Piece 2.dorico (587.8 KB)
