Dorico & SINE Player & Expression Maps

Here’s an interesting issue that has come up using SINE Player with Berlin Strings when creating an expression map… In Violins I would like to have the expression map include Staccato & Spiccato (etc.) from Longs & Shorts but also Trills & Tremolos from Ornaments. This will not work in SINE Player as it sees Longs & Shorts, Ornaments as separate instances. So in this case only Longs & Shorts will have working keyswitches. This means separate expression maps for “Longs & Shorts” and “Ornaments” and hence an additional an additional staff, etc. for VL 2, Va, Celli, Bass. Any other solution out there?

I don’t have any OT libraries and have never used the SINE Player, so I could be completely wrong, but is it not possible to have, say, “Longs & Shorts” loaded into one channel and “Trills & Tremolos” loaded into another channel, and then reference their playback techniques from a single expression map, using channel changes to tell Dorico when to switch between the two loaded patches?

OT support says it SINE player treats “Longs & Shorts” and “Trills & Tremolos” as separate instance. That means that a single expression map cannot reference both. Daniel, I think you are onto something there, but I don’t now how to do channel changes to switch between two loaded patches.

Provided you can load both patches into the same instance of SINE Player on different channels, it’ll be straightforward: but if SINE Player only loads a single sound and doesn’t provide multiple channels, then you’ll be in for a much harder time, I’m afraid.

I think there might be some misunderstanding here (quite possibly on my part rather than yours). I don’t have Berlin Strings; but I have other (free) OT libraries which do allow you to put different articulations on different MIDI channels in the same instance. And, as Daniel says, you can then use your expression map to switch between them. I just tried it, and it works. It would be surprising if you couldn’t do this in Berlin Strings.

EDIT: From
“You can load instruments and articulations from the Library View, either by double-clicking an instrument/articulation or by dragging and dropping it into the Loaded Articulations area…
Loading something by double-clicking [or by dragging and dropping it, I think] always adds it as a new ‘instrument’ in the Loaded Articulations. An ‘instrument’ is mapped to a unique MIDI Channel…”