Quantize grid should quantize to the grid, quantize relative should quantize note length relative to start position. That seems most logical to me.
For those wanting to fix this today without it being a default option:
Open Edit–>Key Commands and then find:
“Quantize MIDI event ends”
Then map it to something like Alt(Option) + Q.
So instead of simply pressing Q to quantize both the beginning and ends of the notes as requested here, you press Q to snap as usual, then press Option + Q to snap the end. That will get the same result. One extra step but gets the job done.
Although I can see the issue being where the end of the note lingers between two points and it might snap to the wrong grid location. Therefore, dragging the end is still a feature request that we need.
Urgh, this is truly idiotic, when “grid relative” is chosen, the end should snap to a distance from the start of note which is a multiple of the current snap setting.
When grid is chosen the end should snap to the grid.
Does anyone at Steinberg actually use Cubase to make music?
Sure there’s a hotkey workaround, but just fix this damn “bug” please.
So this is a feature request now? That’s undeniably idiotic.
So if i buy a car, and when I press UNLOCK it unlocks the car, but when I press LOCK it ALSO unlocks the car, should I tell them I need a new 3rd option to have the LOCK button actually LOCK the car instead?
Why would you have “Snap to grid” and “Snap relative to grid” do THE EXACT same thing?
FOR YEARS AND YEARS!
Comon Steinberg! We all love your software and support you, but you gotta give us Sh*t that works correctly as a baseline, right?
Same here. Unless the Start is snapped to the Grid, the End will not snap to the Grid. Should be able to put the Start and the End independently anywhere we like.
I don’t understand why people keep bringing up Quantize into the discussion. Even if quantize uses the same grid as when manually editing note on/off positions, it’s two different operations.
I strongly agree with the person above, this turning into a feature request is just ridiculous.
If you have Snap to Grid selected and your edits doesn’t actually snap to the grid, it’s an issue. It doesn’t do what it says on the tin.
Because the functionality is built into Cubase already as part of the Quantize feature package. So, it is there, just not where you like to have it.
HOWEVER - the current solution “Quantize Ends” is truly a function, ie. you execute it and, bamm, it does what it should once. While the Snap Type is a mode, ie. you switch Cubase to this mode and it will always perform the function automatically until you either switch the type or switch off the mode altogether.
I think this is the point where you’ll have to convince Steinberg to change the design: Turn it from a function into a mode.
How about this for an argument?
There are at least another 100 computer applications that has a feature/function/mode that is called “Snap to Grid”. They all do the exact same thing. Cubase is the odd one out.
I have never heard that term before. Is it documented anywhere that Snap settings are somehow linked to Quantize?
Either way, when Snap to Grid actually does not snap to the grid, I see that as a problem.
You can argue in any way that you see fit.
I merely answered one of your (maybe rhethorical?) questions and tried to provide a way of describing the situation possibly from the developer’s point of view.
In the meantime I think it is important for the interested reader of this thread to know that “Quantize Ends” will align the ends to the grid, as @Steve_Day already pointed out. Even if it is perceived only as a workaround. It is what is currently available.
Cubase is always so weird with its quantizing stuff, i’m just sick of it. Been using it for like 7 years and im really reconsidering moving back to studio one. Studio one always responded so logicaly. No problems like this. You click on the start or the END of the note and drag it to the grid because “snap to grid is selected. And it snaps on the damn thing as you would expect ..Why is that so hard for cubase. Why complicating.
When Cubase was constructed people were clicking less on the screen but actually played the music on a midi device. For these people it is more important that the length of the note is something like 1/4 or 1/8D. If you then move the start of the note (micro-timing) the note length remains steady.
That’s the basis still today. To have the end of a note fall onto a grid position is therefore the secondary case. It is possible to do but the main focus lies on note lengths.
I would like to point out (again) that I am just describing the situation. I am not advocating for one workflow being superior or inferior.
Since I wrote my message half an hour ago that’s s exactly what I thought, that it’s just something from the first versions of cubase that never got any attention again and now it’s just cluttered with too much of unnecessary clickable quantize options instead of just intuitive workflow..
I have been using Cubase for years and I thought this was not an issue I ever had, until now. And it’s unbelievable because this snap function has been working properly for events in the Project window, so I naturally assumed that this would work exactly the same for MIDI events and notes.
But for my ugly surprise, it doesn’t:
When other DAWs are working fine with the snap as I expected:
Please add an option to ALWAYS snap to grid when dragging the size of a note as the rest of the DAWs do (and as your Main Project window does as well).
I also noticed that this only works when draggin the Start of a MIDI note.
Why it only works for the start and not for the end?
I tried this workaround, but it doesn’t really work, because once I use it, the end of the note is quantized, so I assumed that I now could drag the ending tail hoping that it would snap to the grid, but hell no, it immediately goes back to the unquantized end because it is forcing to quantize the length of the note, so if your start point of the note is still is out of grid, then your end point will always be out of grid. WTH cubase?
For the record, you can see here in your main project window that dragging the ending point of the events does snap to the grid:
Do this for MIDI notes please