I see that when dragging notes of two-staves instruments, like organ, bells the notes are not placed as expected but go down or up with additional lines, instead of being put in the other staff (bass or treble).
It seems to be another bug of the application. Am I doing something wrong?
Is there an option for that?
Use alt/option-M to move to the lower staff and alt/option-N to do the opposite.
Jesper
Thanks.
Now, is this normal? In some cases the note is displayed as overlapping the lower staff, but it still belongs to the upper staff. No additional space is added within.
It does not seem legit to me. Am I wrong?
Yes, if you are using Galley View.
It’s also non-default.
Factory default Solo Piano template:
Now if you’ve turned off this option, you’ll of course get the result you’ve screenshotted:
It is indeed bad for music that goes many ledger lines below the top staff or above the bottom staff, but presumably it’s a choice that you made, and Dorico’s respecting it. It would be bad if Dorico didn’t respect the settings that users set.
@Janus , the op’s screenshot shows Page View. it says so in the bottom right corner.
(Sorry - frustration crept in)
Can’t blame you @Janus, me too.
Jesper
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Different notes make the staves separate, instead, but just on that page, in the other page the staves are very close and notes fall in the wrong staff, like in the previous image.
I am in page view, but if I set Galley it is the same.
I just created the organ instruments, as default I think, there is no divisi or collision, as I know.
I decided to follow your suggestion and change the layout options nevertheless, but it is the same.
(btw, is it really Galley or it is a typo for Gallery?)
It is Galley view. See Galley proof - Wikipedia for the history of the term.
Maybe the minimum gaps specified below the tickbox are too low, or maybe your page is over-filled vertically, or maybe you’ve applied the Layout Options to the wrong layout (in the right side of the dialog).
Having used Dorico for upwards of eight years without ever encountering this sort of issue, I have to assume that the problem is in your specific file’s settings. Feel free to upload a cut down version of the project itself if you’d like someone to unpick the problematic settings.
As you can see there is a note limit, beyond which the staves start being separated.
It’s difficult to spot the distance between the staves but it is greater when the note is lower than the limit.
However there are two different behaviours so the option should cause only one of those.
I applied to full score, then to organ but it is the same, maybe it is for next notes I create? I tried creating new notes but it is the same.
As you can see, with factory settings there’s no such limit:
Please upload a cutdown project if you’d like help with your settings.
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You agree that I did not even know about those options, so they were at the default for sure.
However I have two pages of the score where different things happen.
In one page I have the note-limit, and the staves separate only when the limit is surpassed while dragging the note, in another page the limit does not exist, as in your example and the staves separate pretty early.
But I do not want to bother you further on this topic. Thank you
No, I am not in “engrave” mode, never used it. I am in “write” mode.
I’m trying to get my head around why one page is behaving differently to others. Without seeing the actual project, I’m not sure I have any further ideas.
Of course if you shared the project, or a bit of the project, you’d probably get an answer within a few minutes.
In the meantime please check the attached image, I reverted the options to the default both for organ and full score, now I was able to drag a note over the staves and it overlapped the violin staff. Is that normal?
This is not default. The default is for Automatically resolve collisions between adjacent staves and systems to be turned on.
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Thank you