They require a connection to authorize the computer, but the authorization once it has happened will be valid for quite some time. So you don’t need to re-authorize every time you boot up Cubendo.
Now you’re just lying. Please cut that out. I get that you’re mad that you got stuck in a bad spot and I can empathize with that. Having a dongle would have saved you. But Steinberg’s business model is not “subscription”, so please stop saying that.
It’s not about the subscription but about the authorization. Even with PT as a subscription the license will live on a dongle unless I’m mistaken, which means that you can authorize it on the dongle and you’ll be fine. Obviously you’d want to pay annually so it’s all predictable and you won’t miss a payment in the middle of a project.
Checked now and it looks that you can authorize it via iLok Cloud (need to be online all the time) or physical dongle.
Wondered if it used the same system as Media Composer, which is mostly identical with Steinberg, but seems to be different.
Anyway, regarding the issue at hand, it’s bizzare that in those boasting posts full of millions of dollars, personal assistants, trucks and apple, there doesn’t seem to be a single person who bothered to learn how Steinberg licensing works.
A backup system is one with Cubase already installed and activated, especially if the stakes are so high.
Websters definition of Subscription.
An agreement to receive or be given access to electronic texts or services, especially over the Internet.
the act of signing one’s name (as in attesting or witnessing a document)
the acceptance (as of ecclesiastical articles of faith) attested by the signing of one’s name
You not understanding the word subscription.! Look it up!
Its NOT just for reoccurring payments.
Its a legal term for putting name at end of document agreeing to terms originally.
“An agreement to be given access”
If you bothered to read the end user agreements on Steinberg products you
Agree to the contract. You are given “access” over internet to authenticate, their products. AND they may be revoked anytime, anywhere. at the sole discretion of Steinberg. You also agree to Steinberg to track your user habits, monitor your computer usage, webpages, websites, and meta data. (And steinberg third party’s) e-licenser did not require you to install software that tracks you, sells your usage data, meta data to Steinberg third party’s its really disappointing I recommend every user read the end user license agreement on you new internet validation software Steinberg forces you to install and use when you purchase their new products!
Its not just innocent app!
People must read! Not take others fake info, as most are misinformed. If you had read the end user agreement(s) on both the steinberg user account on website required to have to use the tool to authenticate their new software its a eye opener!
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Now as your solution its s fantasy.
We pros backup our computers, clone them!
Have multiples. Ready on the go.
The new licensing BS fails never passes go!
If your computer dies, you restore it with time machine and a new HD/NvMe drive etc, or bring up a spare backup computer you MUST AUTHENTICATE all your software again. Over the internet, and this fails . As you no longer actually own the software (read user agreement) you cant just restore it, or move HD to another box. You are held hostage to Steinberg, on their terms, when they feel like it, or when they are available to re-authenticate your recovered, or cloned, or repaired Hard drive , mac etc to use the software.
Also the when you read agreement you find out steinberg is not responsible for even making sure your authentication even works, or guaranteed. Users have no legal claim, and forfeit there rights to claim damage’s, loss of use if software purchased. Etc. Really scary!
Steinberg is really disappointing me.
They lost their way! I am your customer!
Customers are always right!
Rule in business. Take a note! Company’s that attack their customers, call them liars, are already failing! See we customer’s are the ones who pay for your products, and that pays for your salaries. If a company looses touch with that, they get sold, and fail. As it should be. I love Steinberg products. But i know how this titanic ends. Its sad.
My experience real! I did my best to warn pros. I am not alone now. 3 other hollywood composers are really angry and had similar experiences. They are re-tooling like i did.
Its much to easy to not be forced to swim up rivers by company’s that are small minded and lost touch with their customer base.
What is weird in this situation is,
The second back up system is not already authorized for Cubase and checked beforehand. You know (or your tech) you get 3 authorizations so you can have two back up systems ready to go.
Seems also there are no audio stems of sessions just in case things go bad like it happened there.
These are basics if you go to a session with live running rig.
I would fire those “used to work at apple” techs 
Well it has zero to do with religion or attesting or witnessing, and what it actually has to do with appears to have been edited or added to by you (!).
( Subscription Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster)
3
: an arrangement for providing, receiving, or making use of something of a continuing or periodic nature especially on a prepayment plan: such asa
: a purchase by prepayment for a certain number of regular deliveries of something (such as issues of a periodical) or for a certain period of access to or use of something (such as an online service)
When Waves recently said they’d be subscription only; when Adobe moved to subscription only; when Avid did it… it all meant to pay regularly for the software to work, and once you stopped paying the software would stop working. That’s what people understand when they say “subscription” in relation to DAWs, NLEs and more.
Steinberg doesn’t do that.
If you really had cloned your computers you wouldn’t have been in this situation, surely. You get three authorizations so you can have your two clones of your main DAW and there’s your backup.
Also, all this “pro” talk yet you’re posting anonymously. Color me skeptical.
People have said that about Steinberg before, years ago. Still here. Same with Avid. Whatever you paid for your license I’ll reimburse you ten years from now if Steinberg is gone by then. It’s a wager. If you lose you don’t have to do anything. If you win take my money and buy some ice cream or something.
Either way, you’re done with Steinberg so best of luck moving forward. I actually do wish that people succeed, so, onward and upward!
I would say as the owner of this thread that several months after migration, I am satisfyed with new Steinberg Licensing and my fears of the past were not real. The only point is the long time it’s taking to migrate all the parcels of loops and instruments, but with HALion 7 I hope this heavy step will accelerate the full migration and the real unplug of elicensers.
Blinking Worsters , there’s some rants going on here , all i can say is if you have had issues with the licenser system there’s something amiss , but i must be a lucky one 100% plain sailing on ALL my licence’s swapped over . I’m an advocate for the dongle because it was YOUR physical dongle , now what do we have ? 1/0’s on a screen , nothing else which is a shame , i’m hoping they will come up with an idea to move licences to a dongle if you wish BUT alli can say to in field production engineers is keep a copy of pro 11 with the elicnecer installed for back up , just in case you hit that nightmare of reactivation .
When we moved to C12 we took on the new arrangement , i don’t particularly like it but it is what it is and yes i have a machine with C11 installed just in case something does go Pete Tong .
No one like change
Pure gold. This forum never fails to deliver!
And with all your millions of dollars you do not have a real backup system. Yes, you have 5 backup macs but none with a second licence. That is your fault, not Steinberg’s. So you can shout as you like but that makes no difference. I have no millions of dollars, I have no techs helping me but as a simple amateur I know that I can have more then one licence on different computers. So please do not call me ignorant . I understand this has been very bad for you, but please look first at your own flaws and learn the one thing you have to learn: have a second (or even a third) computer with software and licence if you can’t afford any downtime.
Still happily “living in the dark ages” here with Cubase 7.5 and my dongle snugly and safely sitting at the back of my PC.
Trying the Cubase 12 demo was the worst thing I could have done. I had to spend a week reinstalling all the VSTs it had overwritten without asking.
Sticking to the relative safety of my 2013 vintage USB dongle. The less time spent on the internet the more time there is for making music (and therefore money!).
Especially when there’s no expenditure for new software! 
Because of this I stopped buying anything from Steinberg. Nothing with the new scheme in my studio. There are plenty of alternatives, preferable on iLok
Elicenser
Well they missed a trick with Retrologue 2. I wanted to buy it as I love the current original Retrologue that comes shipped with Cubase 7.5 but it appears that I can’t purchase it for my current Cubase 7.5 without upgrading my current Cubase DAW (as far as I’m aware anyway).
Even if I could I don’t look forward to wasting time logging in to multiple Steinberg accounts just to purchase one VST instrument. Oh and then I have to download their bloatware to download it AND install it.
Obviously, if you visit the website, or do a simple search, you can purchase the standalone version.
You should use the software that brings you joy, and not waste time.
Thanks for the link I’ll investigate again. Not sure how to licence it though if it won’t register on my e-licenser.
In the time it takes to log into the forum and post the above, you could learn everything you need to know.
This topic is really going nowhere, and is just reiterating old complaints. – so I’ll close it.
But please feel free to complain in a new topic. You can also post topics that are not complaints. 