Editing Cues and Ossia Staves

Dear Community –

I’ve searched the Forum for something similar to my issue but can’t find anything that matches, so here goes:

I’m finishing a chamber work for flute, cello, and piano, and am having some trouble editing cues and ossia staves.

  1. In one section, the piano is the best choice to cue the other parts, but it also uses the extremes of the instrument’s range. In the score I have those passages with 8va lines. But in the flute and cello parts, no 8va, leading to a lot of ledger lines:


    This makes the individual parts messy and creates a problem for editing:

    So my first question is this: Is there a way to edit cues so that I could add 8va lines to the cues themselves, or even change stem direction? (I realize the rests in the existing part may prevent that.) I can’t even select the cued notes in Write mode, much less edit them, and Engrave mode doesn’t have a way to add 8va lines.

  2. In another section, there’s a duo for flute and cello that’s rhythmically complex, so I created an ossia staff for the cello so the player could coordinate with the flute part:


    Seemed like an elegant solution, but the ossia staff shows up in the score as well, minus the cue, which looks less than ideal:

    So my second question is: Is it possible to hide that ossia staff? I tried the Manual Staff Visibility dialog (inserted a system break to facilitate it), but that seems not to see ossia staves, just the main staff.

Running Dorico Version 5.1.70.2200 (Nov 18 2024), on a MacBook running Sequoia 15.1.1.

Any advice or guidance on these would be greatly appreciated!

You won’t like this, but (personally) I think all those cues and ossia’s are totally unnecessary.

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you can create different score layouts that ultimately might be a lot clearer for the player. having staves and cues coming and going can be disorienting for the average reader

Regarding the cues:

In the property (bottom) panel there are settings for voice/stem direction and octave shift (however without 8va/8ba indicator)

Thank you all for your help!

I did look in the properties panel and knew about the controls for stem direction/etc., but still wasn’t able to select the cue notes to alter them. No global setting applies to these particular issues either.

I re-edited the parts to eliminate the ossia staves and reduced the number and length of cues to make the parts work.

Again, thanks all for your advice.

Hi @tom_ginsberg, in case you need this in future, you can set per layout if the ossias are shown or hidden:

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